Tamiya TT02 Thread
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#3376
I need to try the yellow /blue springs on my GT MK II.
#3377
Hi. I have seen that there is a spool for the TT-02, the Tamiya #22047, and tamiya sells the conic gears as spare part #51704. Watching this spare gears,
I noticed that they are very similar to the conic gears of the old TT-01 ball differential #53663, but with 12 holes instead 10. Does anyone know if this gear could fit on the TT-01 differential? I think that adding 2 ball more, probably, but it will be great if someo can confirm it.
I noticed that they are very similar to the conic gears of the old TT-01 ball differential #53663, but with 12 holes instead 10. Does anyone know if this gear could fit on the TT-01 differential? I think that adding 2 ball more, probably, but it will be great if someo can confirm it.
#3378
Hi all - I am wondering what hop ups/upgrades or full setups would be a good starting point if picking up a TT02 for onroad club racing? I would be starting out just learning to drive again before jumping into a novice class but would like to have it set up where it can be competitive after that
#3379
Tech Elite
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Hi all - I am wondering what hop ups/upgrades or full setups would be a good starting point if picking up a TT02 for onroad club racing? I would be starting out just learning to drive again before jumping into a novice class but would like to have it set up where it can be competitive after that
The TT02 is a reliable, consistent, drivable car. It is a platform you can learn on. But it's not good for racing in "open" classes. There are $100 cars that have all the features, caster, camber, easily swapped gearing, metal body shocks, oil filled shocks, anti-dive, adjustable toe, adjustable camber gain, adjustable roll centers... which are things that are essentially out of the question for TT cars.
So what you want to hear. Buy a good steering servo. Something with less than 0.1 second 60deg rating. Spend $30 on some yeah racing or 3 racing oil filled shocks. Spend $25 on a bearing set. Buy a heavy duty servo saver (Tamiya's is good) which is $10 or so. Spending more money is shoveling good money after bad. This is entirely about making the car controllable and long lasting, so you can learn to drive. The pogo sticks it comes with make the car less consistent. the stock servo saver is to soft to drive straight really. And bearings remove a lot of slop from the wheels so the car goes where you want it to go.
If you want to get actually competitive, you really need to buy a different car. "the parts to get those features" are available for the TT02, but you do not want a $1000 tt02. And buying carbon shock towers, TRF416 arms, adjustable roll center parts, gearing parts, oil filled diff, spool adapter, universal joints, metal drive cups, swaybars, and more quickly ends up the cost of just buying something capable to start with.
#3380
Hi all - I am wondering what hop ups/upgrades or full setups would be a good starting point if picking up a TT02 for onroad club racing? I would be starting out just learning to drive again before jumping into a novice class but would like to have it set up where it can be competitive after that
Our club runs a Production class - TT02/TT01e. Box build. Only allowed ball bearings, USGT tires, universal joints and some mods that do not improve performance but improves reliability.
After that the next step is USGT which the TT02 will be slaughtered in.
I've been running the Production class when I got back into the hobby in summer 2020. It's a fun class as every car is basically a spec car. So there's no advantage except the driver.
Could mods I recommend as long as your club allows is using a longer hex screw when assembling the front steering knuckles. These are pretty fragile when you first start out. Longer screw will reinforce this area.
Also trim the "ears" on the front suspension arms and the steering knuckle AFTER installing universal joints for the front. The "ears" or the steering limiters will limit how much steering you will have. After trimming you will have more steering for sharper corners.
Add some sticky grease to the front diff and leave the rear empty (at least this is how I like my car). I use Lucas Red & Tacky, some others use AW Grease. You want some diff action but do not lock the front diff.
Lastly we add a little Lucas Red & Tacky in our shocks to prevent them from pogo-sticking while cornering.
#3381
Tech Champion
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I bought the Yeah racing universal shafts but tried to use the stock C2 part in the picture. But the shafts are to long and you can not adjust the suppension to level. I do have the yeah racing C2 parts coming hoping that it will fix the problem.? Any help would be appreciated.
#3382
I bought the Yeah racing universal shafts but tried to use the stock C2 part in the picture. But the shafts are to long and you can not adjust the suppension to level. I do have the yeah racing C2 parts coming hoping that it will fix the problem.? Any help would be appreciated.
There's the smaller ball end of the universal joints which need the smaller cups.
And of course the larger ball end which need the larger cups.
Which part number did you order?
#3384
Tech Elite
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Hi. I have seen that there is a spool for the TT-02, the Tamiya #22047, and tamiya sells the conic gears as spare part #51704. Watching this spare gears,
I noticed that they are very similar to the conic gears of the old TT-01 ball differential #53663, but with 12 holes instead 10. Does anyone know if this gear could fit on the TT-01 differential? I think that adding 2 ball more, probably, but it will be great if someo can confirm it.
I noticed that they are very similar to the conic gears of the old TT-01 ball differential #53663, but with 12 holes instead 10. Does anyone know if this gear could fit on the TT-01 differential? I think that adding 2 ball more, probably, but it will be great if someo can confirm it.
#3385
Tech Elite
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Don't fool yourself. The tt02, isn't good for club racing, unless there is a specific TT class.
The TT02 is a reliable, consistent, drivable car. It is a platform you can learn on. But it's not good for racing in "open" classes. There are $100 cars that have all the features, caster, camber, easily swapped gearing, metal body shocks, oil filled shocks, anti-dive, adjustable toe, adjustable camber gain, adjustable roll centers... which are things that are essentially out of the question for TT cars.
So what you want to hear. Buy a good steering servo. Something with less than 0.1 second 60deg rating. Spend $30 on some yeah racing or 3 racing oil filled shocks. Spend $25 on a bearing set. Buy a heavy duty servo saver (Tamiya's is good) which is $10 or so. Spending more money is shoveling good money after bad. This is entirely about making the car controllable and long lasting, so you can learn to drive. The pogo sticks it comes with make the car less consistent. the stock servo saver is to soft to drive straight really. And bearings remove a lot of slop from the wheels so the car goes where you want it to go.
If you want to get actually competitive, you really need to buy a different car. "the parts to get those features" are available for the TT02, but you do not want a $1000 tt02. And buying carbon shock towers, TRF416 arms, adjustable roll center parts, gearing parts, oil filled diff, spool adapter, universal joints, metal drive cups, swaybars, and more quickly ends up the cost of just buying something capable to start with.
The TT02 is a reliable, consistent, drivable car. It is a platform you can learn on. But it's not good for racing in "open" classes. There are $100 cars that have all the features, caster, camber, easily swapped gearing, metal body shocks, oil filled shocks, anti-dive, adjustable toe, adjustable camber gain, adjustable roll centers... which are things that are essentially out of the question for TT cars.
So what you want to hear. Buy a good steering servo. Something with less than 0.1 second 60deg rating. Spend $30 on some yeah racing or 3 racing oil filled shocks. Spend $25 on a bearing set. Buy a heavy duty servo saver (Tamiya's is good) which is $10 or so. Spending more money is shoveling good money after bad. This is entirely about making the car controllable and long lasting, so you can learn to drive. The pogo sticks it comes with make the car less consistent. the stock servo saver is to soft to drive straight really. And bearings remove a lot of slop from the wheels so the car goes where you want it to go.
If you want to get actually competitive, you really need to buy a different car. "the parts to get those features" are available for the TT02, but you do not want a $1000 tt02. And buying carbon shock towers, TRF416 arms, adjustable roll center parts, gearing parts, oil filled diff, spool adapter, universal joints, metal drive cups, swaybars, and more quickly ends up the cost of just buying something capable to start with.
Tamiya has a fantastic entry level-product that get a lot of newcomers to the hobby thanks to the awesome-looking licensed bodies&wheels... Unfortunately a lot of these new hobbyists then give up after they realize the TT01 will not be competitive outside of a TT01 spec class, even after fitting $300 of blue alloy bits to their cars. Tamiya, 3racing and yeah-racing are really really guilty on that front...
#3386
Tech Champion
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Preach on, brother...
Tamiya has a fantastic entry level-product that get a lot of newcomers to the hobby thanks to the awesome-looking licensed bodies&wheels... Unfortunately a lot of these new hobbyists then give up after they realize the TT01 will not be competitive outside of a TT01 spec class, even after fitting $300 of blue alloy bits to their cars. Tamiya, 3racing and yeah-racing are really really guilty on that front...
Tamiya has a fantastic entry level-product that get a lot of newcomers to the hobby thanks to the awesome-looking licensed bodies&wheels... Unfortunately a lot of these new hobbyists then give up after they realize the TT01 will not be competitive outside of a TT01 spec class, even after fitting $300 of blue alloy bits to their cars. Tamiya, 3racing and yeah-racing are really really guilty on that front...
I know that’s a very hard idea accept for those of us that do compete, but it’s the truth. in fact 5% is probably a stretch
TT Spec classes have limits on hop ups, so the initial investment is very low. I am fairly certain that once they chose to step up to the next class, they are given guidance on the limit of the TT chassis and what should be their next chassis
So the only guilt that goes around is poor guidance by experienced racers, not the manufacturer.
#3387
Tech Champion
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The only reason I purchased a TT02 is because a group of us wanted something to play with at the races. We all are very experienced racers. Its just a class to have fun in as My race classes are for competition. It has been awhile since I put together a plastic car- the last was the Euro truck but quickly sold it. We'll see how long I stay with this class -especially where I plan on racing it ( a rough parking lot). I can go back many years for the Tamiya cars and buggy's I have had That's what they make and like what has been said over 90% never see the race track. At this track I plan on racing at the biggest class is the Tamiya Euro Trucks (20+)and hopefully the TT02s.You have to have fun!
#3388
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Tamiya’s own ProSpec class is a lot of fun and has low entry costs. At present you are allowed to use certain hop ops that will increase the investment into the kit, but none honestly provide any improvement performance. At our last TCS, the 2nd place driver built his car from spares and was up amongst the top 3.. 1 and 3 had full optioned TT02 RRs.
ps, I was 3rd 😉
ps, I was 3rd 😉
#3389
Tech Regular
Tamiya’s own ProSpec class is a lot of fun and has low entry costs. At present you are allowed to use certain hop ops that will increase the investment into the kit, but none honestly provide any improvement performance. At our last TCS, the 2nd place driver built his car from spares and was up amongst the top 3.. 1 and 3 had full optioned TT02 RRs.
ps, I was 3rd 😉
ps, I was 3rd 😉