Mugen MTX-4
#6151
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Originally Posted by wallyedmonds
i found and i could be wrong but if your traction rolling the tiner chassis will help this the thiker ones make the car more dieled.
#6152
Any one got a stable setup for this car. I don't have a hudy so please try to make it as simple as possible.
Thanks
Thanks
#6153
Originally Posted by jhigga15
Any one got a stable setup for this car. I don't have a hudy so please try to make it as simple as possible.
Thanks
Thanks
Team SpeedMind and Team Magic have cheaper set up tools.
http://www.speedmind.net/Tools.htm
http://www.teammagic.com.tw
#6154
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It is actually quite easy. On a 60mm tire, every 1/16th of an inch (+/- 1.5 mm) is about 1 degree as measured through the axle. You can gauge toe, caster, camber that way. Get a ruler, 200mm is just about 7 7/8 inches.
But for sure, setup tools are easier.
But for sure, setup tools are easier.
#6155
Originally Posted by Slo-MTX4
I was of the understanding that a 3mm chassis will create more grip because they flex more, if this is the case that would be why you would run a 4mm on this track as this track grips up very well once it cools a bit.
#6156
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Originally Posted by wallyedmonds
its kinda hard for me to explain, on high grip the thiner chassis will flex yes but i find that the car will be slower and not traction roll that easy,but on high speed tracks the car is harder to drive,with the thicker chassis the car is more on the springs and not the chassis and if you use to hard of a spring you will traction roll.
#6157
Originally Posted by Slo-MTX4
But a harder spring wont allow the chassis to roll as much creating less grip there fore less chance of traction roll. And yes the track is a high speed track hence the reason you would use the 4mm chassis.
#6158
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Ok well think of it like this a drift car has rock hard springs on it, why? so that it doesnt grip up, they dont want traction they want to slide. If you put soft springs on you allow the chassis to roll more therefore transfering more wieght to the tyres thus creating more grip. Then it also comes back to tyre compund choice and diameter.
#6159
Originally Posted by Slo-MTX4
Ok well think of it like this a drift car has rock hard springs on it, why? so that it doesnt grip up, they dont want traction they want to slide. If you put soft springs on you allow the chassis to roll more therefore transfering more wieght to the tyres thus creating more grip. Then it also comes back to tyre compund choice and diameter.
#6160
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MUGEN SEIKI Website is Down
is it just me, why the web site of mugen is always hard to connect, pages not loading properly.
#6161
Originally Posted by BeBop
is it just me, why the web site of mugen is always hard to connect, pages not loading properly.
#6162
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Originally Posted by wallyedmonds
yes and they run very hard tires and there very low to the ground and you cant realy drive them on the road well you can but there a hand full and they dont realy go that fast,they drive on kinda short tracks.
#6163
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what you guys' thought on the 4mm chassis ? i recently purchased one from 3 racing, i have yet to install but a little hasitate. i ve always thought that a thicker chassis could increase the overall rigidity of the car , but some of you mentioned a interesting thought on staying with 3mm as it allows chassis to " flex " hence increase traction during turns ? this is totally against my understanding could someone enlighten me on this ?
also will 4mm chassis alter the geometry of the car in any way ? i would think i probablly need to work on shock lengths and right heights but anything else ?
also will 4mm chassis alter the geometry of the car in any way ? i would think i probablly need to work on shock lengths and right heights but anything else ?
#6164
Originally Posted by Tag
what you guys' thought on the 4mm chassis ? i recently purchased one from 3 racing, i have yet to install but a little hasitate. i ve always thought that a thicker chassis could increase the overall rigidity of the car , but some of you mentioned a interesting thought on staying with 3mm as it allows chassis to " flex " hence increase traction during turns ? this is totally against my understanding could someone enlighten me on this ?
also will 4mm chassis alter the geometry of the car in any way ? i would think i probablly need to work on shock lengths and right heights but anything else ?
also will 4mm chassis alter the geometry of the car in any way ? i would think i probablly need to work on shock lengths and right heights but anything else ?
Changing to a 4mm chassis will change the roll center of the car and probably the center of gravity since you are essentially moving everything up. If it's milled down though to 3mm in essential areas such as where the front and rear suspensions are bolted down the the chassis which in most cases are the bulkheads,then you can retain the same suspension geometry.
#6165
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so "chassis flex" is not a bad thing afterall ?
Originally Posted by Racing4Evo
The chassis flexing acts like its own spring. What the suspension is doing can not account for all the movements of the car so the chassis flexing accounts for the other forces acting on the car. Just take a look at pan cars in electric. The Rear pod is allowed to flex, a lot I might add, but people don't really think about that as part of the chassis when in reality it very much is.