Tamiya mini cooper
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It will download as a .doc file, btw. If you just want to roam his site, I think this is it.
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If these are the big internal spacers I'll bring some tonight, Jim.
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Thanks, Colin. You're the KING.
Funny, can't find any of these things in N. America, but shops in Europe and Australia are offering loads of them for cheap. Also funny: They're under Tamiya 7-digit spares program, but the current part number has 8 digits. (2300010 is now 12300010)
Funny, can't find any of these things in N. America, but shops in Europe and Australia are offering loads of them for cheap. Also funny: They're under Tamiya 7-digit spares program, but the current part number has 8 digits. (2300010 is now 12300010)
If you're bored and want to read a little more, here's a pretty good document on basic setup...HERE!
It will download as a .doc file, btw. If you just want to roam his site, I think this is it.
It will download as a .doc file, btw. If you just want to roam his site, I think this is it.
More grist for the mill eh. Hope to get out to Carcar on Tuesday or Thursday for a bit of practice. Got a new radio coming from Santa (i know it's a bit early but my wife works that way. ). It should be here next week. (I hope)
Here's what I've been working on in the meantime. It's an M-05 pro chassis with the Orca Spark combo installed. I put a Kawada Borsche Speed Star body over top of it. Just because I could. It's the first body I've painted and turned out all right. Gotta practice more on that front as well.
Ran the M05 in LWB form for the first time today. On a high grip carpet I couldn't get the back end to stop skipping on tighter corners, I tried changing to less gripy tyres, tyres with more grip, soft springs, hard springs, it still skipped. Any thoughts ?
Basic set up,
Front:
Tyres - M-Grips, Spice 5.5mm Medium insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, outer hole on CF upper mount, M06 Ball shaft lower mount.
Camber - Standard link. Toe 2deg out
Rear:
Tyres M-Grips, Tamiya Hard insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, standard upper mount, standard lower mount.
Camber - Adjustable link with 2mm spacer Toe 1.5deg in, Silver anti roll bar.
Basic set up,
Front:
Tyres - M-Grips, Spice 5.5mm Medium insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, outer hole on CF upper mount, M06 Ball shaft lower mount.
Camber - Standard link. Toe 2deg out
Rear:
Tyres M-Grips, Tamiya Hard insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, standard upper mount, standard lower mount.
Camber - Adjustable link with 2mm spacer Toe 1.5deg in, Silver anti roll bar.
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Ran the M05 in LWB form for the first time today. On a high grip carpet I couldn't get the back end to stop skipping on tighter corners, I tried changing to less gripy tyres, tyres with more grip, soft springs, hard springs, it still skipped. Any thoughts ?
Basic set up,
Front:
Tyres - M-Grips, Spice 5.5mm Medium insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, outer hole on CF upper mount, M06 Ball shaft lower mount.
Camber - Standard link. Toe 2deg out
Rear:
Tyres M-Grips, Tamiya Hard insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, standard upper mount, standard lower mount.
Camber - Adjustable link with 2mm spacer Toe 1.5deg in, Silver anti roll bar.
Basic set up,
Front:
Tyres - M-Grips, Spice 5.5mm Medium insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, outer hole on CF upper mount, M06 Ball shaft lower mount.
Camber - Standard link. Toe 2deg out
Rear:
Tyres M-Grips, Tamiya Hard insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, standard upper mount, standard lower mount.
Camber - Adjustable link with 2mm spacer Toe 1.5deg in, Silver anti roll bar.
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Ran the M05 in LWB form for the first time today. On a high grip carpet I couldn't get the back end to stop skipping on tighter corners, I tried changing to less gripy tyres, tyres with more grip, soft springs, hard springs, it still skipped. Any thoughts ?
Basic set up,
Front:
Tyres - M-Grips, Spice 5.5mm Medium insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, outer hole on CF upper mount, M06 Ball shaft lower mount.
Camber - Standard link. Toe 2deg out
Rear:
Tyres M-Grips, Tamiya Hard insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, standard upper mount, standard lower mount.
Camber - Adjustable link with 2mm spacer Toe 1.5deg in, Silver anti roll bar.
Basic set up,
Front:
Tyres - M-Grips, Spice 5.5mm Medium insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, outer hole on CF upper mount, M06 Ball shaft lower mount.
Camber - Standard link. Toe 2deg out
Rear:
Tyres M-Grips, Tamiya Hard insert, no additive or glue on tyre.
Damper - TRF M Chassis, 400wt oil, 3 hole piston, one black O-ring under piston, red urethane bush above bladder, 56.25mm, red spring, standard upper mount, standard lower mount.
Camber - Adjustable link with 2mm spacer Toe 1.5deg in, Silver anti roll bar.
Another reason for running the front ride height higher than the rear is that you also get a camber adjustment. Most of the time on hi-grip surfaces, 5mm front and 4mm rear is a workable starting point.
I've done quite a bit of testing on hi-grip asphalt and have found that in my hands, the LWB is about 0.5 sec per lap slower. On lower grip surfaces, the LWB is just fine and is my preference there.
Last edited by Granpa; 10-28-2012 at 08:57 AM. Reason: Addition
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I'm having a steering/handling issue with my M05. On carpet the car is very twitchy and rotates very easy, but the rear isn't sliding and tends to roll very easy. I have my radio turned all the way down on speed as well as expo on steering and throttle. EPA is at 70% l/r. Is there anything else electronically I can do? I'm using a m11x.
How about mechanically? The car is on Sweep 33's (spec tires) In LWB with the JCW coupe body. I do have about 21 grams under the servo and the front bumper lower cavity filled with lead, its about 17 grams total.
Setup
Front
Tires - Sweep 33
Shocks - 3 hole, 1mm oring, 500, blue, 57mm
Adjustables - kit camber, 2* toe out, 3.5mm ride height
Rear
Tires - Sweep 33
Shocks - 3 hole, 1mm oring, 350, yellow, 57mm
Adjustables - kit, but do have the adjustable link not installed yet 4.5mm ride height
How about mechanically? The car is on Sweep 33's (spec tires) In LWB with the JCW coupe body. I do have about 21 grams under the servo and the front bumper lower cavity filled with lead, its about 17 grams total.
Setup
Front
Tires - Sweep 33
Shocks - 3 hole, 1mm oring, 500, blue, 57mm
Adjustables - kit camber, 2* toe out, 3.5mm ride height
Rear
Tires - Sweep 33
Shocks - 3 hole, 1mm oring, 350, yellow, 57mm
Adjustables - kit, but do have the adjustable link not installed yet 4.5mm ride height
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hello I came across spec m-05
and the q is do you guys use the extra heavy alum .pcs? for racing?
motor heat sink or do you buy the alum . motor mount or skip them both? (orca motor doesnt need any help with heat?)
what about the alum plate for the rear wheels?
thanks for any info
and the q is do you guys use the extra heavy alum .pcs? for racing?
motor heat sink or do you buy the alum . motor mount or skip them both? (orca motor doesnt need any help with heat?)
what about the alum plate for the rear wheels?
thanks for any info
I will mention this because you didn't say what your radio gear is. First you need to check if indeed your exponential is doing what you think it is. I say this because it seems there might be differences between makes. Some soften the servo response at positive expo some soften it at negative. Logic would have you think you need negative exponential to soften the servo response because you need a logarithmic not exponential response curve. Manufacturers don't necessarily follow this logic though. Have a little test with your gear and with the results in hand you'll know.
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My Spektrum has expo backwards. It was really annoying until I figured that out.
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lol
yeah you want it in the positive range not negative
yeah you want it in the positive range not negative
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I'm having a steering/handling issue with my M05. On carpet the car is very twitchy and rotates very easy, but the rear isn't sliding and tends to roll very easy. I have my radio turned all the way down on speed as well as expo on steering and throttle. EPA is at 70% l/r. Is there anything else electronically I can do? I'm using a m11x.
How about mechanically? The car is on Sweep 33's (spec tires) In LWB with the JCW coupe body. I do have about 21 grams under the servo and the front bumper lower cavity filled with lead, its about 17 grams total.
Setup
Front
Tires - Sweep 33
Shocks - 3 hole, 1mm oring, 500, blue, 57mm
Adjustables - kit camber, 2* toe out, 3.5mm ride height
Rear
Tires - Sweep 33
Shocks - 3 hole, 1mm oring, 350, yellow, 57mm
Adjustables - kit, but do have the adjustable link not installed yet 4.5mm ride height
How about mechanically? The car is on Sweep 33's (spec tires) In LWB with the JCW coupe body. I do have about 21 grams under the servo and the front bumper lower cavity filled with lead, its about 17 grams total.
Setup
Front
Tires - Sweep 33
Shocks - 3 hole, 1mm oring, 500, blue, 57mm
Adjustables - kit camber, 2* toe out, 3.5mm ride height
Rear
Tires - Sweep 33
Shocks - 3 hole, 1mm oring, 350, yellow, 57mm
Adjustables - kit, but do have the adjustable link not installed yet 4.5mm ride height
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Thanks for all the tips. I will check those all out and give it a try tomorrow night!