ThunderbirdJunkie is itching to wheel his 4w SC10 this Friday. He feels he's stumbled upon a great setup. Excitement mounts



OK, dude. You know more about everything, because you've clearly been racing RC cars a year longer than ThunderbirdJunkie, and you have a Mustang, and you run a mill and/or lathe, and you crash less when racing toy cars.

Again, that's great that YOU like their products. Don't get so butthurt when somebody else doesn't.

I finally got a chance to catch up on this thread today and you answered a question that has been on my mind for a while.

My biggest complaint about the SC10 is instability. We have a couple local tracks here... one is a very tight, small clay track and the other is large dirt track... both indoor. I do pretty well on the larger track where things are much more free flowing and contact with other cars is fairly rare. I've given up racing on the small one. I can make real fast laps on it, but it's hard to avoid contact with other racers and when I inevitably rub a pipe I go flipping into a wall. This is only made worse by the fact most people around here have the Losi. I recently went to a big race at an small/medium indoor track and had TQ, figuring this race was in the bag. In the first main I ended up in 6th or 7th. Every time I would try to pass someone we would rub and I ALWAYS got the worse end of the deal.

I know this has been said repeatedly but I can't get over how much more stable the Losi is. I've driven a couple of the local Losi trucks and don't really turn faster lap times with it but it's way easier to drive. You can make small mistakes or get bumped by another truck and it recovers quickly where the SC10 does somersaults.

All this to say I've been thinking about adding as much weight as I can cram in the chassis to see if it makes it more stable for a while now. Thanks for giving your feedback and prodding me to stop by the hobby shop to grab a few strips of lead.

I think you mean "thread"


Back to the SC104x4...personally, I haven't really noticed any problems with the slipper or the shocks...but I'm tempted to try the TrackStar o-rings AND the MTK clutch basket...

Has anyone else done this? Where they THOUGHT their truck was running fine, but tried the upgrades anyway? I know a lot of people who had shock binding issues fix them by replacing the rings, and a lot of people who couldn't get their slippers to work properly fixed that with the basket...but I want to hear from people who thought they didn't have a problem.

The o-rings I'll likely grab regardless...but $40 for the basket is a little much if I'm not going to see a real-world difference... I'm pretty smooth on the throttle, and don't really have any problems clearing any of the jumps at our track, so long as I am driving a clean lap... I don't need to do wheelies down the straights, and I FEEL like my truck accellerates just as quickly as my trigger finger tells it to...

I don't think he was really getting upset that YOU don't like their product. Personally, I won't buy any of their products because of the poor customer service I received when trying to order something directly from their website. I think where he was getting upset was your attitude and the way you basically called anyone who buys their product morons...

I agree that sometimes people pay too much attention to which sponsored racer won what with who's product... but there are better ways of putting it.


(My experience with JConcepts...order was about $250...so not a SMALL order...but not a HUGE one either... when selecting the shipping method, it gave me 2 options...one was $45, one was $90...when selecting the $45 option and going on to the next page, it changed it to the $90 option. When I brought it to JConcepts' attention, they replied to my first email, saying that they would look into it. 3 emails and a month later, their site was still doing the same thing. In fact, I just checked, and it is still doing the same thing as it was 6 months ago...it pains me to think how many people may have ordered from them and not realized that they are paying more for shipping than they selected...)

I find the 1410 is a pretty mild motor, I'm running 60c 5600 2s on mmp, geared 14/62 and temps are about as high as I want to push it and it's only 70deg here in WA. Motor and esc are 140ish each. The esc temps are pretty warm, what gearing are you running if yours is so fast? Power feels really mild and not really fast. I have the Ballistic 4.5 low torque rotor and it's alot faster, temps out 135 on rx8 and 155/160 motor. Smokes the 3800kv pretty easy, everyone asks what I'm running with the 4.5, with the 3800 nobody's says anything, but I'm really fast either way after running 50 battery's on the same layout lol! Tracks changing sunday woohoo!

Can you guys stop crying over all the small crap?

Were all here cause we play toy cars. so stop bitching about the small crap and get this thread back on topic

Yes, this is exactly what I did. I have one of the first runs of the sc10 4x4 from tower. I ran it alot, box stock and didn't think I had any slipper issues or suspension issues...my truck seemed to be as fast as anyone else out on the track. I didn't think I had suspension issues since the truck was new, myself & everyone else was learning about the suspension and the new style shocks, and I was excited about the x-rings...they should work better in theory than standard o-rings.

So when I saw trackstar come out with their o-rings, I had to ask myself why would they feel the need to do this? So then I took my shock off and checked it out thouroughly and noticed that the shaft movement was not very smooth or as smooth as I think it should be especially with these new x-rings that have less contact than a traditional o-ring. So I plopped down $3 and got the o-rings and in my opinion they are the best bang for the buck upgrade for this truck hands down. I believe you really don't even need the nitrate coated shafts or hard anodized bodies for the shocks to be any smoother...but they do look better than the stock blue bodies!

As for the clutch basket, I bought that mostly on ALOT of peoples word of mouth here on rctech and at West Coast raceway. My stock clutch was pretty much locked and I just didn't like the fact that I had to have it almost locked for it to work properly. I have the basket on my truck now but I haven't had a chance to run it on the track yet...I'm hoping to this or next weekend and I'm excited to feel how it works based on everyone's positive feedback.

whoooa whooa whoa, whats wrong with owning a mustang...?

P.S. Some jconcepts products are a little flimsy... I love there buggy wings though, only wing or jc product I use.

I started to lose hope for this thing. then i changed motors.. now I'm in love again and starting to see the light! ditched the 4.5 SC4X for a 8.5 540 D3 matched my fastest lap ever with in two qualifiers and truck is more consistent.

Nice! I too like the 540 5.5 D3 motor I ran but I needed just a little more punch. I wish I could find the 13.0 tuning rotor for that motor, that would probably be ticket at my track...plus its SO MUCH MORE QUITE!! I like that part

As for the Jconcepts stuff...I think they make good stuff...I run their raptor body on my truck, mostly because its a thicker lexan than other bodies but I like the raptor look as well.

1. re: mustang, Ford saved $100 by not installing IRS, all my roads have left and right turns


2. o -rings my truck floats instead of bounces now


3. clutch basket , always got killed off the line by the 1/8 buggies, er 3 diff sc, now it's equal

I wonder why do people add weight to the car

Actually, what's good about it in racing terms, is that it is LIGHT!

Myself being a 1/10 4WD buggy guy since I started RC at the age of 12, I'm used to drive critical stuff, to be light on the brakes, to have a smooth throttle, and above all, to have a properly adjusted suspension setup.

You can't drive this truck like an 1/8, because IT IS NOT. If adding weight to the car (for the sole purpose of making it heavier, not to balance it out) works for you, then the problem is not the car, but your driving style.

1/8 cars like to be treated rough on the gas, and firm on the brakes, because they are heavy, wide, and ride low; and the can transfer the horsepower to the ground. But this truck is probably the one out there liking the smoothest possible driving style.


You cannot attempt to drive this as an 1/8, despite the actual dimensions of the truck.

The Losi? It's another world. That is a highroller 1/8 with a big body.

My mustang has IRS, haha. Yoi just didnt get the right one, lol.