SC10 4x4 Thread
#3331
Ok, so after fussing around with this truck for a month(ish), It's starting to drive like it has a mind to be driven. After building Swaybar sets in varying thickness and shapes and mucking with camber length and roll center, I slapped a pair of double Ds (green) on the front and a set of HB beams (whatever their soft compound is) on the rear.
Started treating me like a girlfriend instead of the neighborhood bully...
Tight, well kept and ran moist indoor clay track.
Front:
Camber -2.5
3.5mm spacers under inner ball
30k dif
shock; middle/outer/40w ASC/no boots/no limiters/built emulsion
2.3mm sway
24mm ride height
Rear:
Camber -2/inner hole at hub
2mm spacers under inner ball
5k dif
shock; inner/outer/32.5 Losi/no boots/no limiters/rod end 3 turns out/built emulsion
2mm sway
24mm ride height
other:
19t front pulley
clicker locked
deglazed stock pads...
1410 at 13/62
Although it could still use a little off power steering, it has now stopped doing the Joey Chitwood every time it sees a turn...
Started treating me like a girlfriend instead of the neighborhood bully...
Tight, well kept and ran moist indoor clay track.
Front:
Camber -2.5
3.5mm spacers under inner ball
30k dif
shock; middle/outer/40w ASC/no boots/no limiters/built emulsion
2.3mm sway
24mm ride height
Rear:
Camber -2/inner hole at hub
2mm spacers under inner ball
5k dif
shock; inner/outer/32.5 Losi/no boots/no limiters/rod end 3 turns out/built emulsion
2mm sway
24mm ride height
other:
19t front pulley
clicker locked
deglazed stock pads...
1410 at 13/62
Although it could still use a little off power steering, it has now stopped doing the Joey Chitwood every time it sees a turn...
#3333
That would be an understatement!
http://speedsterhobbies.com/index.ph...d=22&Itemid=29
Older pics, the layout is very different now but it gives the idea of overall size.
http://speedsterhobbies.com/index.ph...d=22&Itemid=29
Older pics, the layout is very different now but it gives the idea of overall size.
#3334
Ok, so after fussing around with this truck for a month(ish), It's starting to drive like it has a mind to be driven. After building Swaybar sets in varying thickness and shapes and mucking with camber length and roll center, I slapped a pair of double Ds (green) on the front and a set of HB beams (whatever their soft compound is) on the rear.
Started treating me like a girlfriend instead of the neighborhood bully...
Tight, well kept and ran moist indoor clay track.
Front:
Camber -2.5
3.5mm spacers under inner ball
30k dif
shock; middle/outer/40w ASC/no boots/no limiters/built emulsion
2.3mm sway
24mm ride height
Rear:
Camber -2/inner hole at hub
2mm spacers under inner ball
5k dif
shock; inner/outer/32.5 Losi/no boots/no limiters/rod end 3 turns out/built emulsion
2mm sway
24mm ride height
other:
19t front pulley
clicker locked
deglazed stock pads...
1410 at 13/62
Although it could still use a little off power steering, it has now stopped doing the Joey Chitwood every time it sees a turn...
Started treating me like a girlfriend instead of the neighborhood bully...
Tight, well kept and ran moist indoor clay track.
Front:
Camber -2.5
3.5mm spacers under inner ball
30k dif
shock; middle/outer/40w ASC/no boots/no limiters/built emulsion
2.3mm sway
24mm ride height
Rear:
Camber -2/inner hole at hub
2mm spacers under inner ball
5k dif
shock; inner/outer/32.5 Losi/no boots/no limiters/rod end 3 turns out/built emulsion
2mm sway
24mm ride height
other:
19t front pulley
clicker locked
deglazed stock pads...
1410 at 13/62
Although it could still use a little off power steering, it has now stopped doing the Joey Chitwood every time it sees a turn...
#3335
Good call. I"m going to measure and add fuel tubing to act as a downstop. AFTER a couple more cups of coffee and some intelligent programming on the tube.
#3337
Coyoteslash:
How's that slipper nut? I changed a spur yesterday, and did a high torque pad at the same time. I guess I didn't tighten the slipper enuf, but it was just a little chirpy, didn't seem too bad. Next pack it got much worse, so I retightened it, maybe 7-8 threads showing? Ran 2 minutes, got slow again, checked it, it was now only showing 4 threads, and HOT. Temped at 180!! The Teflon inside the nut was toast. Motor was at 130. A new nut (maybe 2?) some loctite, and maybe a vented slipper are in my future.
Tried another run after it all cooled down, but it got the slips again real bad, I'm sure the pads are like ice. Then had an electronics issue (1015 decided to make random right turns and twitch, hard), so I packed up and flipped cars for a bit....
PS, I like the clicker on with the sway bars. Much better turn in for me.
How's that slipper nut? I changed a spur yesterday, and did a high torque pad at the same time. I guess I didn't tighten the slipper enuf, but it was just a little chirpy, didn't seem too bad. Next pack it got much worse, so I retightened it, maybe 7-8 threads showing? Ran 2 minutes, got slow again, checked it, it was now only showing 4 threads, and HOT. Temped at 180!! The Teflon inside the nut was toast. Motor was at 130. A new nut (maybe 2?) some loctite, and maybe a vented slipper are in my future.
Tried another run after it all cooled down, but it got the slips again real bad, I'm sure the pads are like ice. Then had an electronics issue (1015 decided to make random right turns and twitch, hard), so I packed up and flipped cars for a bit....
PS, I like the clicker on with the sway bars. Much better turn in for me.

Another possible reason that I have noticed for those having issues with the slipper assembly is that some assembled the slipper assembly incorectly by putting the slipper thrust spacer in the wrong or opposite direction..This has caused some to melt/burn out there slipper pads and eventually destroy there slipper thrust bearings..It changes the spacing in the assembly also, causing excessive slipping and messing up the alignment of other crucial components such as the belt..
Check that the slipper thrust spacer was put in correctly during the build...It kind of sucks that you have to take out the whole slipper assembly, the motor, and other rear components to get to the spacer..It's really not all that bad to get to it though..For those having issues with there slippers, check out that SLIPPER THRUST SPACER...It's worth a try, to see if that is causing your slipper issues imo...Good luck!!

Last edited by MarqueeRc; 06-18-2011 at 12:43 PM.
#3339
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,974
From: Norwood, OH...and CCRCR and The OhioRCFactory
ThunderbirdJunkie finally broke a part. Broke the left side of the rear shock tower while attempting backflips off one of the doubles after racing last night
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#3340
#3341
I've owned the scte, and I currently own both the 2wd and 4wd sc10...... In a sense with the clicker on it can act like a 2wd but only on jumps and braking........ But the 4x4 drives way better then the 2wd as far as turning (even better then the scte IMO)
#3343
I keep hearing of people having a hard time with the slipper assembly..The first page states a fix to this issue..Have you guys put the recomended extra slipper thrust washers (more than the one supplied and instructed in the kit manual) that goes on b/f the slipper thrust bearing???As the first page states a some kits had there slipper thrust spacers not machined to spec size which causes the slippers to slip excessively..Hence the need to shim (with 2 or 1 extra slipper thrust washer) in front of the slipper thrust bearing..
Another possible reason that I have noticed for those having issues with the slipper assembly is that some assembled the slipper assembly incorectly by putting the slipper thrust spacer in the wrong or opposite direction..This has caused some to melt/burn out there slipper pads and eventually destroy there slipper thrust bearings..It changes the spacing in the assembly also, causing excessive slipping and messing up the alignment of other crucial components such as the belt..
Check that the slipper thrust spacer was put in correctly during the build...It kind of sucks that you have to take out the whole slipper assembly, the motor, and other rear components to get to the spacer..It's really not all that bad to get to it though..For those having issues with there slippers, check out that SLIPPER THRUST SPACER...It's worth a try, to see if that is causing your slipper issues imo...Good luck!!


Another possible reason that I have noticed for those having issues with the slipper assembly is that some assembled the slipper assembly incorectly by putting the slipper thrust spacer in the wrong or opposite direction..This has caused some to melt/burn out there slipper pads and eventually destroy there slipper thrust bearings..It changes the spacing in the assembly also, causing excessive slipping and messing up the alignment of other crucial components such as the belt..
Check that the slipper thrust spacer was put in correctly during the build...It kind of sucks that you have to take out the whole slipper assembly, the motor, and other rear components to get to the spacer..It's really not all that bad to get to it though..For those having issues with there slippers, check out that SLIPPER THRUST SPACER...It's worth a try, to see if that is causing your slipper issues imo...Good luck!!


#3344
My first impression/opinion
I run on an outdoor loamy, bumpy clay track with good size jumps (SCSC Titusville)
traction is low-med depends if its wet or not
My truck is 1410 CC with 15/62 gearing with MMP. I stripped out the 48p spur but I think that was my fault.
I moved shock locations in rear angled out and front shocks as straight up as possible.
stock shock oil weight
2mm handmade swaybar set up
3k front diff/3k rear diff
Ran Subcultures all around with full time 4wd.
OMG!! Truck is quick has great traction, turns on a dime. Ass end is little squirrely but not terrible,
motor temp about 150-160, oh it was 96 deg out with about 80% humidity.
Truck is so easy to drive. I had to add 3/4 oz of weight in front to balance it out for jumps.
I moved battery all the way in the rear.
Very very fun to drive. This is my first time running a 4wd and I had a blast. Drives like my FTSC10 except I have major traction.
I had to call it a short day because my charger wont work on DC now. 

I want to try 10k in the front diff and see how that works. I have 30k but I don't want to jump up that big before trying something in the middle first.
I cannot wait to get this thing out there again.
All the pain I been going thru made it all worth it today.
Special thanks to SaladFork for helping a brotha out!
I run on an outdoor loamy, bumpy clay track with good size jumps (SCSC Titusville)
traction is low-med depends if its wet or not
My truck is 1410 CC with 15/62 gearing with MMP. I stripped out the 48p spur but I think that was my fault.
I moved shock locations in rear angled out and front shocks as straight up as possible.
stock shock oil weight
2mm handmade swaybar set up
3k front diff/3k rear diff
Ran Subcultures all around with full time 4wd.
OMG!! Truck is quick has great traction, turns on a dime. Ass end is little squirrely but not terrible,
motor temp about 150-160, oh it was 96 deg out with about 80% humidity.

Truck is so easy to drive. I had to add 3/4 oz of weight in front to balance it out for jumps.
I moved battery all the way in the rear.
Very very fun to drive. This is my first time running a 4wd and I had a blast. Drives like my FTSC10 except I have major traction.
I had to call it a short day because my charger wont work on DC now. 

I want to try 10k in the front diff and see how that works. I have 30k but I don't want to jump up that big before trying something in the middle first.
I cannot wait to get this thing out there again.

All the pain I been going thru made it all worth it today.

Special thanks to SaladFork for helping a brotha out!
#3345



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