Might as well go for a shameless plug the way this thread is going.

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Here's a thought. Instead of the who made who BS that comes up in just about EVERY freakin Taiwanese engine thread, how about we talk about THE ENGINE instead of this tit for tat crap about "morals".

Ron..........if you feel it's your duty to bad mouth every "copycat" manufacturer or company (after all, some aren't even manufacturers) that appears on this forum, you should very well expect that those that simply don't agree with you might take issue with you.

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You can say all you want..............IN YOUR THREAD.

Moto

Come on guys this thread is for the Arrow GTR engine. Can we please keep it that way. This is not a thread about who copied who.

Whoa lol MAsssive post ....

getting back to the GTR... does any one have any evidence that O.S did not sell/lease-out/give there old tooling for the v-spec to this company .. alot of companys do this when they stop making sumthing they sell it off .. at the end of the day O.S gets alot of publicity from it - just look how much people are still talking about a discontinued engine lol just in this thread. also if the GTR P/s fit a v-spec engine then thats a WIN for o.s as well because people will keep running the engine and not toss it for a cheaper 1 like a alpha or go ...

ron/werks .. if another company made a p/s kit for a B5 that was $30 cheaper than yours , but aloud people to still run there b5 or 6 and not change to a cheaper or other brand , what would u say. at the end of the day u would want them buying your rebuild kit , but aleast there still running your mill - true ,

Epic post man!

Agreed and something I will keep in mind but what just happened has nothing to do with disagreeing or agreeing with me about the taiwan engine stuff. It's taking underhanded dig at us and crying about not liking the way a business deal went down. Either way though I get what you are talking about and will keep it back to my own thread If we need to explore this more Jason, send me a PM.

Last post because I just noticed this. Regarding your questions honestly if someone made a p/s kit that was not an identical replica of mine (so basically meaning if the port configuration, timing etc. was not an exact copy) I would not have a problem with it. You have to keep in mind that the thing that really takes us engine guys all of the time to develop is the timing and port configuration. So if someone developed say a drop in Torque sleeve or a drop in Top end sleeve then I would not have an issue with it no matter what price they sold it at, it's their design and their unique product and it's up to them to decide for what they should sell it. I think that there was actually a company a while ago that made something like that for the Traxxas 2.5 engine possibly with a graphite piston. Similarly if someone made aftermarket shoes to fit my clutch or something like that I would be all for it (heck I might even buy them from the company and start carrying them too if I thought there was a benefit). I see this as being no different than a company offering an option part i.e. a shock tower or something like that for a car kit. Hope this answer's your questions and now I'm off

See ya

winner winner.. but this man a dinner... next none comment on the arrow engine will not like the results... engine look nice.. for the price i would buy them over the os engines... never had a v-spec/speed last more then 3 gallons.. but back on track.. thank you

Here is a few shots of the new Arrow GTR .21 with my full race porting. This engine will be in action at the 5th Annual Canadian Indoor Shootout in a few weeks. It will be paired with the RE10 exhaust as that is what Mike Cleary from Answer RC has been running and has recommended so we will have a true comparison stock vs modified.

What was your take on the bearings? Did you replace them?

The engine comes with a double shielded front which I like the double shielded idea and the rear is your typical steel. I am going to run the stock bearings in it to see how they hold up. I want to keep the engine with as many oem components as possible to get a true reading of original engine parts quality and longevity.

The double shielded was of concern, which is why I was wondering what you would say

i have put over 5 gallons on the one in my buggy and havent had any proplems what so ever thing runs like a champ

Why are they of a concern to you? Some people like the idea and some don't. I have run double shielded bearings for years without any real problems of any kind and I always have gotten more life out of them than most single shielded bearings. I also feel they help with the higher case pressures and keeping foreign debris out.