EB Mods JS Engine
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#1653
Any suggestions on getting some more mileage out of my JS full mod. I'm using a 6.5 restrictor, 9901SS, 41021 pipe, OS p5. Ambient temp 60-70s. Engine temp was 210, but I stop checking after my first 5 or 6 tanks, so I don't know where it temps now. I just know it idles well, drops to idle well after a throttle pull, and it feels very strong on the track. I did some testing a small medium grip track and was able to just get 10mins with my current setup. I was able to get just 10mins on a large high speed track also, but I was holding back to make my pit window. (20 min race)
In comparision, I was getting 12+ mins on a different motor I've run for years in the same buggy. The JS full mod is very smooth, and it spools up faster than my previous motor. It really has more power than I need on the bottom and everywhere else for that matter. The only problem is my mileage has suffered.
I have the idle gap set 1 1/4 turn from closed and set the low end needle with that idle gap. Does this hold true for a smaller restrictor also?
If you have any ideas please let me know. There's large race coming up next week, and I'd like to make 11.5min pits. I was able to do that last year, but this year I may have to settle with an extra pit stop.
In comparision, I was getting 12+ mins on a different motor I've run for years in the same buggy. The JS full mod is very smooth, and it spools up faster than my previous motor. It really has more power than I need on the bottom and everywhere else for that matter. The only problem is my mileage has suffered.
I have the idle gap set 1 1/4 turn from closed and set the low end needle with that idle gap. Does this hold true for a smaller restrictor also?
If you have any ideas please let me know. There's large race coming up next week, and I'd like to make 11.5min pits. I was able to do that last year, but this year I may have to settle with an extra pit stop.
#1654
Any suggestions on getting some more mileage out of my JS full mod. I'm using a 6.5 restrictor, 9901SS, 41021 pipe, OS p5. Ambient temp 60-70s. Engine temp was 210, but I stop checking after my first 5 or 6 tanks, so I don't know where it temps now. I just know it idles well, drops to idle well after a throttle pull, and it feels very strong on the track. I did some testing a small medium grip track and was able to just get 10mins with my current setup. I was able to get just 10mins on a large high speed track also, but I was holding back to make my pit window. (20 min race)
In comparision, I was getting 12+ mins on a different motor I've run for years in the same buggy. The JS full mod is very smooth, and it spools up faster than my previous motor. It really has more power than I need on the bottom and everywhere else for that matter. The only problem is my mileage has suffered.
I have the idle gap set 1 1/4 turn from closed and set the low end needle with that idle gap. Does this hold true for a smaller restrictor also?
If you have any ideas please let me know. There's large race coming up next week, and I'd like to make 11.5min pits. I was able to do that last year, but this year I may have to settle with an extra pit stop.
In comparision, I was getting 12+ mins on a different motor I've run for years in the same buggy. The JS full mod is very smooth, and it spools up faster than my previous motor. It really has more power than I need on the bottom and everywhere else for that matter. The only problem is my mileage has suffered.
I have the idle gap set 1 1/4 turn from closed and set the low end needle with that idle gap. Does this hold true for a smaller restrictor also?
If you have any ideas please let me know. There's large race coming up next week, and I'd like to make 11.5min pits. I was able to do that last year, but this year I may have to settle with an extra pit stop.
#1655
Ernest,
Im running a 6mm restrictor and a steel flywheel along with one of the softest clutch set-ups you can put on the losi to smooth everything out which ultimately increases mileage as well, Don't forgot not only are you running a different engine then last year but also a different car and that can also play a roll in fuel mileage. I know you know the drill but the smoother the drive train the better mileage is and clutch is a major part too. I believe a 3 shoe clutch gets worse mileage then a 4 shoe and I know of at least one other person who switched cars as well and saw a drop in mileage so has went to a 4 shoe to help get that mileage back. I'm not sure if the JQ has a 3 or 4 shoe but could be something to look into.
Im running a 6mm restrictor and a steel flywheel along with one of the softest clutch set-ups you can put on the losi to smooth everything out which ultimately increases mileage as well, Don't forgot not only are you running a different engine then last year but also a different car and that can also play a roll in fuel mileage. I know you know the drill but the smoother the drive train the better mileage is and clutch is a major part too. I believe a 3 shoe clutch gets worse mileage then a 4 shoe and I know of at least one other person who switched cars as well and saw a drop in mileage so has went to a 4 shoe to help get that mileage back. I'm not sure if the JQ has a 3 or 4 shoe but could be something to look into.
#1656
I agree with everyone... I use the stock HB clutch in my D8 and have been getting 10-11mins pretty consistently at 200' 7mm venturi, P4, dyn 086, sidewinder purple stuff. I could eaily lean it out and get alot better mileage, but not sure if I can drive the power 
I have a werks clutch Ive used and run the .9 springs on that.

I have a werks clutch Ive used and run the .9 springs on that.
#1658
thanks for the feedback guys. based on everyones comments I'm going to guess it's one of two things. It's my combo of pipe/head/plug or it's my tune.
I've seen Chris' mileage on his race prep and I was amazed. That's what finally convinced me to try a JS. I already have a soft 4 shoe ascendancy steel clutch, and my drivetrain feels free. An A/B motor swap was 2 extra minutes on another motor I have with the same chassis.That's the extra time I'm looking for.
So I'll lean the tune somemore and maybe try Chris' pipe/6mm restrictor/plug combo.
I've seen Chris' mileage on his race prep and I was amazed. That's what finally convinced me to try a JS. I already have a soft 4 shoe ascendancy steel clutch, and my drivetrain feels free. An A/B motor swap was 2 extra minutes on another motor I have with the same chassis.That's the extra time I'm looking for.
So I'll lean the tune somemore and maybe try Chris' pipe/6mm restrictor/plug combo.
#1661
If anyone can get 11:30 Ernest can lol he is smooth and precise on the throttle and the complete opposite of my driving lol

I was getting about 10:40 on the layout that was at the pit Ernest and that was at 200-210, maybe the 53 is a better fit then the 01 I know the 53 is the power pipe so maybe the 01 is just choking the engine too much and hindering mileage? just a theory and something to try!

#1662
Joe,
If anyone can get 11:30 Ernest can lol he is smooth and precise on the throttle and the complete opposite of my driving lol
I was getting about 10:40 on the layout that was at the pit Ernest and that was at 200-210, maybe the 53 is a better fit then the 01 I know the 53 is the power pipe so maybe the 01 is just choking the engine too much and hindering mileage? just a theory and something to try!

If anyone can get 11:30 Ernest can lol he is smooth and precise on the throttle and the complete opposite of my driving lol

I was getting about 10:40 on the layout that was at the pit Ernest and that was at 200-210, maybe the 53 is a better fit then the 01 I know the 53 is the power pipe so maybe the 01 is just choking the engine too much and hindering mileage? just a theory and something to try!


Also what's you're FD on your losi? Stock ring/crown with clutch/spur 13/46 on small track 14/46 on big tracks?
#1663
If it's not my pipe combo, than I think I just need to learn to tune this better. Honestly I haven't gotten to the point were I just keep leaning until I see/feel a performance loss and back it off and fine tune from there. The motor runs very strong already, so I stopped at that point. I don't think I have that 99% tune yet.
#1664
Good points. I do have areas I can work on that I'll try and address before Wednesday. New motor, new car, and little time to get everything dialed in. My backup plan is settle for 9:15-9:30 pits.
If it's not my pipe combo, than I think I just need to learn to tune this better. Honestly I haven't gotten to the point were I just keep leaning until I see/feel a performance loss and back it off and fine tune from there. The motor runs very strong already, so I stopped at that point. I don't think I have that 99% tune yet.
If it's not my pipe combo, than I think I just need to learn to tune this better. Honestly I haven't gotten to the point were I just keep leaning until I see/feel a performance loss and back it off and fine tune from there. The motor runs very strong already, so I stopped at that point. I don't think I have that 99% tune yet.





