Truggy Motors
12-28-2010 | 11:10 AM
#31
Trinity has been out of business for over a year. And EPIC (Short for Epic failure) out of FL i believe went belly up as well. That's what happens when your customer service stinks and you lie to people for months at a time,or should i say years.New state, same business approach same ending.Are those crickets i hear?? So no do not buy one of these motors if you need customer service or parts support. Unless of course you like soft cranks,silicone that comes out of those cranks and carbs that don't hold a tune!!
12-28-2010 | 11:54 AM
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Trinity has been out of business for over a year. And EPIC (Short for Epic failure) out of FL i believe went belly up as well. That's what happens when your customer service stinks and you lie to people for months at a time,or should i say years.New state, same business approach same ending.Are those crickets i hear?? So no do not buy one of these motors if you need customer service or parts support. Unless of course you like soft cranks,silicone that comes out of those cranks and carbs that don't hold a tune!!
12-28-2010 | 12:06 PM
#35
12-28-2010 | 12:46 PM
#36
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The orange head (z852) is a damn good truggy mill.7 port with mid range port timing. They do make a 7 port with a high rpm powerband, which is the green head (z862), you can pick them up for around $220 or so.
There is a guy on rctech (22 racer) who does engine modding, his company is TQ mode. He's a alpha dealer, and his son won the J Concepts nationals on Omaha with a stock green head alpha by over a lap.
Pm me and I can give u his contact info.
There is a guy on rctech (22 racer) who does engine modding, his company is TQ mode. He's a alpha dealer, and his son won the J Concepts nationals on Omaha with a stock green head alpha by over a lap.
Pm me and I can give u his contact info.
The orange head S852 will walk down most 28's without breaking a sweat. LOTS of bottom, very smooth linear power curve. (At the RC Pro Finals I yanked 4 trucks at once on the straight... passed them like they had the brakes on!) I'm getting 11 minutes on a fast, open track and 15 (yes, 15!) minutes on a tight technical track. That's with the 8mm restrictor. And it isn't exactly a true 7-port, it is a 5+2. A little different.
The green head Z852 doesn't have the bottom of the S852, but one of my buds runs it in truggy, and likes it. Similar runtimes... and he's a trigger happy fool!
Both of those are $209 from RC Pro Products. If you MUST have a .23 or .28 they are available also... but I don't have any personal experience with them. If they're anything like the S852 they're beasts though.
Note that these engines are VERY tight initially, be patient with break in. Mine took nearly 2 gallons to lose the metal pinch and really "wake up." Once they do you'd better be ready to deal with it... they're stupid fast.
The other "budget" engine I'd consider is the Werks B5. A top quality engine at a budget price. I chose the Alpha and couldn't be happier, but I have friends with similar results from the Werks B5. I think the Alpha might make just a touch more power, but it is hard to say.
Anything else comparable will cost you a significant amount more.
Oops... my mistake... didn't realize the Novarossi that Monty (Houston) listed was that close to the same cost. Also a good choice. Novarossi is quality stuff!
12-28-2010 | 06:23 PM
#37
but those of us who offer our time know it doesnt , we still do it because we olve to help you guys out , it makes our hearts siiiiing 
12-28-2010 | 06:30 PM
#38
this my friend is what many dont realize , i used to provide "the" best service and charge a little more , now i have to sell stuff cheap , make way less on a transaction and that really makes it hard to offer as good of customer service but i do what i can to help guys out . i wish time meant money in RC but those of us who offer our time know it doesnt , we still do it because we olve to help you guys out , it makes our hearts siiiiing
but those of us who offer our time know it doesnt , we still do it because we olve to help you guys out , it makes our hearts siiiiing P.S Side note to ya. Our fuel has a very nice blend of caster.
12-29-2010 | 07:34 PM
#39
it would be awesome if every manufacture of fuel put there blend of oils in there fuel description IMO , more info is always helpful as to alleviate any guesswork
12-29-2010 | 08:04 PM
#40
And when not only what you but in the fuel but the ratio of the products in the fuel change its characteristics on protection,performance and run time i cant see anyone really wanting to supply that info not to mention the time and money spent on R&D!
12-29-2010 | 08:14 PM
#41
Well, these fuel guys are a rare breed kind of like you motor modders
And when not only what you but in the fuel but the ratio of the products in the fuel change its characteristics on protection,performance and run time i cant see anyone really wanting to supply that info not to mention the time and money spent on R&D!
And when not only what you but in the fuel but the ratio of the products in the fuel change its characteristics on protection,performance and run time i cant see anyone really wanting to supply that info not to mention the time and money spent on R&D!
12-29-2010 | 08:19 PM
#44
3% Hash oil
3% poppy oil
3% hemp oil
It does not protect the motors very well at low nor high rpm.The run time stinks.But the funny thing is for some reason no one seems to care when their motors blow up LOL!!!
12-29-2010 | 08:20 PM
#45
Joined: Jan 2007
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Actually I'd disagree, total oil quantity is not really not as critical to engine longevity as the quality of the oil is.