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Old 11-14-2010 | 04:28 PM
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I seem to remember hearing that if 4 or 5 people show up to race a certain class, one would be created.

Consider what would happen if we just made a motor limit rule. Little Johnny, who only has exactly.... well not much. A worn out truck with an8.5 or whatever, not much skill,(sorry johnny) and even less money. He will have to run with the mod guys.

Now all the better drivers in mod will be complaining because somebody cant get out of the way.

I do not have a problem with motor limits. If that is what you want, get other drivers together and ask for a class. It is after all a club.

I personally like the idea of box stock slash.I have always liked my old slash.


Otherwise, go buy yourself a 5.5 and see how much damage you can create
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Old 11-14-2010 | 05:25 PM
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Not that I have a dog in the fight but if a motor rule is going to be created, can we get a decision at some point? I'm considering buying an SC10 and I'd prefer not to buy a motor twice... My funds are limited because a full size race car is sucking them up

I'm not a member so I'll keep my trap shut about what I think on this
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Old 11-17-2010 | 10:10 AM
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I tend to stay out of Marcca business, but I have to say this. Almost every class in the whole world of RC racing will start as a fun and economical class, but at some point, someone is going to think, that they can put a bigger faster motor or battery in to be better. Perfect example, Trans Am. Started off as 27 turn motors and 4-6 cell batteries, granted technology came around and kind of changed the game, Trans Am started off fun, but as soon as brushless motors and lipos came around, I had to use a hybrid (19 turn rotor in a 27 turn can) to be even somewhat close to the lipos and brushless motors. I wasn't the only one that was bending the Trans Am rules either.

I am going to kind of agree with Jeremy on this one, motor rule in Madison probably won't happen. If it does great, but it better get enforced.

By the way, to go along with Gabe, I won the Short Course A main outdoors with my little 13.5 in the 4x4 Hyper due to clean driving, then went to Reedsburg and beat a couple of other 4x4's with a 6.5 and the other had a Novak 550 can. Now, I am not trying to trash talk, but the point is there. Side note, it will be a different story when I put a much better motor in my short bus.

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Old 11-17-2010 | 10:14 AM
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Driver skill is what our classes are based on now. Almost every week in every Super class race a smaller motor wins due to its' control and mainly drivers skill.
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Old 11-17-2010 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by marccaracer
Driver skill is what our classes are based on now. Almost every week in every Super class race a smaller motor wins due to its' control and mainly drivers skill.
"slow is fast and fast is perfect driving"
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Old 11-17-2010 | 05:32 PM
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Looking back at the first post on this thread, the reason for a motor limit was for beginner drivers to learn to drive better with smaller motors. Motor size cannot dictate a person's ability. If that were the case, all the guys winning in super trucks would be running 3.5 to 4.5's.
I would have to agree with Gabe about the whole thing. If the club creates classes based on motor size, weight and battery limits will be next. Are we gonna be teching every battery just to make sure they are within voltage?
In my mind, the whole scenario loses the "club" feeling; and begins to take on a sanctioned event theme. I am just there to have fun with fellow racers and my toy truck. I am not too concerned with if my fellow racers are 2 grams over weight and running a lipo with 7.6v.
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Old 11-17-2010 | 06:29 PM
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we try to set a motor rule in monroe and for the most part it working in sct the tire rule is another story but i think in comming around now

now that we open the motor rules for mod sct there a couple people that want to run the big power and i think they should get a 17.5

when i talk to people about the hobby the first they ask me is how fast does it go and i alway tell fast than they handlle and for the most part it true because i never see them at the track but i alway see then buying part from hitting a curb or a building wide open and wonder why it broke.


i think marcca has something that work for the club and they should keep doing it,,,, its been like this for the 8 eight plus years
there were alot of people that want marcca to die but there 15 die hards that went and play with toy truck and look at it doctor hobby close and rcp track gone and rpc has a smaller store still with no part and marcca is still breathing and doing better than ever pulling fifty plus every week
and it seen weird that there are part for almost every truck there because we all now the hobby shop is closed i like it there and will keep racing there until i cannot see

so if you like to drive to trackside to race it fine but there is a small
bull ring right in your back yard give it a try before knock the club i`m sure you will enjoy yourself

the club is ran by some great people that do not get pay to do it,,,, so if you would to see thing different step to the plate we all want to race but dont want to help with the stuff behide the scene it like the outdoor track if people dont want help with it you can run on what you have

i send alot time in monroe doing stuff with ryan and doing most of it,,,,,,,, with one thing on my mind is to it make the best as i can and with what we have

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Old 11-18-2010 | 03:45 AM
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Can't argue with that.

I want to try to get up there and to Monroe too this year. It's good to know how it goes up there.
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Old 11-18-2010 | 07:13 AM
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The club is doing better because the RC business is doing better in general nationwide. While I enjoy and support the club I also made a concious decision a year ago to stop running at MARCCA as often and take Jason to Trackside and other tracks which had more stucture to the classes. Sorry to break this to you but there is usually better cleaner racing even at the club level at other tracks who have clear class rules. I also do not really see any cheating going on like the fear mongers proclaim. Jason seems to be competetive with equipment that falls within the rules.


MARCCAs structure also limits a persons ability to take their equipment to another track to compete in a class close to their ability. When there were only a dozen or so guys running maybe open and super made sense. With 50, 60 or 70 entries it would seem time to give more definition to the classes and help the members become better drivers and compete and represent MARCCA outside the clubs track.

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Old 11-18-2010 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kghills
The club is doing better because the RC business is doing better in general nationwide. While I enjoy and support the club I also made a concious decision a year ago to stop running at MARCCA as often and take Jason to Trackside and other tracks which had more stucture to the classes. Sorry to break this to you but there is usually better cleaner racing even at the club level at other tracks who have clear class rules. I also do not really see any cheating going on like the fear mongers proclaim. Jason seems to be competetive with equipment that falls within the rules.


MARCCAs structure also limits a persons ability to take their equipment to another track to compete in a class close to their ability. When there were only a dozen or so guys running maybe open and super made sense. With 50, 60 or 70 entries it would seem time to give more definition to the classes and help the members become better drivers and compete and represent MARCCA outside the clubs track.

Keith and Jason

what ^^^ he said!!
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Old 11-18-2010 | 09:32 AM
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While we are on the rules topic, what about the metal chassis that is on the Hyper 10SC, is that legal to run at Marcca? As long as screws are taped over. Is there an actual motor and battery limit? Just curious if I wanted to run my short bus with a 550 can motor and 2s.
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Old 11-18-2010 | 09:58 AM
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I do not let Jason run his Jammin at MARCCA on the carpet. He tried once and even with the screws covered the leading edge of the chassis by the dirt shields were collecting carpet. If it were my carpet I would not want the heavier metal chassis SCTs to run so I told Jason it was not a good idea. Having said this I do believe Eric Whiteside lets them run on his carpet track in Winthop Harbor.
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Old 11-18-2010 | 10:19 AM
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I am not familiar with that chassis. I would have to inspect it to OK it. Our main concern is damage to the carpet. If it can be made safe then we will allow it. Since Keith commented about his experience I would not rush out and buy one since we may not allow it due to digging up the rug.
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Old 11-18-2010 | 10:40 AM
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It is very simple, if a group of racers want a class with a limited motor rule, you need to assemble yourselves and ask the race director to add it. So, put your words to action - come to the track promote your idea, get racers to commit to racing with your motor rule and once you have 5 racers sign up - maybe than other racers will be attracted to your class and follow suit.
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Old 11-18-2010 | 10:46 AM
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Here are the rules for another off road carpet track that enjoys good success (plus has lots of parts in stock) check the PDF.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...hobbies-3.html

Eric has motor rules and chassis rules. Plus the Droopy Dog has great Gyros.
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