tell us more dave,
were are the juice bits,
your not known to hold back,
who was having fun at RC HOBBIES, shame on them,
who rodgered Oscar this time, lol
or was it the sweet smell of MM A-MAIN in the 3rd isle that done it for ya
P1ss n wind without substance bud

personally i go there just for the entertainment

+1 go jump off a cliff dave no one cares what u think rc hobbies rule !

I've put a dozen or so orders throught with them and never have a drama, if your doing internet orders there is always the Bpay option then there is no opportunity for problems

Shop over seas...Give all the hobby shops in Aus a miss..You will save heaps of cash and who gives a rats arse about "supporting your local hobby shop"?
Why?
Do they support us?
for example..Why pay $40-50 a set of 1/10 touring rubbers when you can get 2 sets for the same price from Hong Kong..as well as the USA.....
And not to mention Spares?
The only place in Aus who is trying to make a difference is HE international...he relises that internet shopping is BIG..and he prices accordanly....So why not the rest?
I for one will not pay the insurance for the shop owners "flash" sports car?
And..Give the guy a break..He was ripped, And frustrated, why do you guys think he posted his comment..
To all you no-life, computer warriors. and wanna be racers..GO-F$%K your selves... I suppose you all are football supporters as well who thinks Simon Cousins is the "man"...

Guys i think we are all forgetting some thing here ,i started the hobby back in the 80s and back them the local hobby shop was the main supporter of there local club.
many clubs today would not be where they are now if not for that orignal support.
It is not the hobby shops that stopped supporting us but us that stopped supporting them because the internet made things easier and cheaper for us.
We are always searching for the lowest price and fastest delivery and when we are stuck before sundays race we toddle off to the local shop and expect
a huge discount because we just visited for the second time in 2yrs.
food for thought i think.

Originally Posted by hillbilly_bumfc
Shop over seas...Give all the hobby shops in Aus a miss..You will save heaps of cash and who gives a rats arse about "supporting your local hobby shop"?
Why?
Do they support us?
for example..Why pay $40-50 a set of 1/10 touring rubbers when you can get 2 sets for the same price from Hong Kong..as well as the USA.....
And not to mention Spares?
The only place in Aus who is trying to make a difference is HE international...he relises that internet shopping is BIG..and he prices accordanly....So why not the rest?
I for one will not pay the insurance for the shop owners "flash" sports car?
And..Give the guy a break..He was ripped, And frustrated, why do you guys think he posted his comment..
To all you no-life, computer warriors. and wanna be racers..GO-F$%K your selves... I suppose you all are football supporters as well who thinks Simon Cousins is the "man"...


I agree 100% with your comments. I know that my local club is supported by 3 hobby stores all of who have their "regular" customers that get the best possible service, price, and attention at all times.

People have to understand that if you want the convenience of some advice, some assistance, some local knowledge ..IT'S GOING TO COST YOU A LITTLE MORE AT THE CASH REGISTER.....Gues what , it's worth it.

Does Mr..Who-Flung-Dung somewhere in china help you on race day with repairs, or tuning, or spares (that you can pay for next time you are in the store)? .NO. Does he say G'Day and pass some time talking BS about who was fastest, and the biff-n-barg that occured in the previous race? NO.

Wake up to yourselves you precious little primadonas....
Next time you struggle at your local track, think about the LHS owner as you cry into your mocha-soy-chai-latte you purchased with the money you saved from buy all your gear from Mr.Dung or his chinese cousins etc.

So much food for thought it oughtta be called a banquet..

So you 2 guys work for hobby shops
In my 20+ years of racing..Not one hobby shop has attemted to help anyone..Only to help empty their pockets...
And let alone "advice"?
they will give advise...what they can sell, with the greatest mark-up's.
Never have i seen/ heard of a shop helping..
I remmember racing at a certain shops track..they would all rub their hands and smile every time a loud "Smash" was heard..more money for em..
That track is a has been....
So..You tell me what shop has helped a newbie when he is having problems?

Its usually some one like me who feels sorry for the person...Not the local hobby shops as they see the newbies as "fresh meat"....
So..To the local hobby shops...bring your prices down, have a smile on your face when im shopping and Help the newbies...If that happens, then maybee, i said maybee we as racers/ hobbiests will support our local..Until then..all my hard earned cash will go overseas.....as i work for me...not him...

An Owner of a hobby shop helping you at the track? hahahahaha
hahahahaha
hahahahaha
I just fell off my chair
hahahahaha

NOT IN ADELAIDE!!!!!!!!

I certainly do NOT work for any hobby shop at all, nor am I aligned with any specific shop other than to support the people who have supported me personally.

I can tell you that in West Suburbs of Sydney, we have 3 local shops that are all willing and able to assist anyone at all and they do so, EACH & EVERY WEEK by not only sponsoring the local club, but by providing support, advice, tips etc.

Perhaps this is rare, but in my experiences, this is why I feel so strongly that we support these businesses.

From the very first time I turned up at a race, I have been supported and not always for a dollar in their pockets either......sure, they run a business, but I have personally witnessed these LHS owners help people by fixing/tuning/setting up cars that were NOT even purchased from them in the first place.

Seriously guys, I'm sorry for you if you don't get the level of support I enjoy from our local LHS and I know the same is available from almost every capable individual member/racer at our local track.

Move to West Sydney and enjoy the hobby a little more
Keep smiling and remember...
"When the green flag drops, the BS stops" .....

+1
there seems to be some really good venting happening here its also common not just in rc but in allot of other sports etc but at the end of the day I dont think that anything can be done to change this due to two things that we all have buried somewhere in the back of our brains
GREED and SELFISHNESS
just have fun out on the race track guys and a big thanks to the more experienced guys who do help out the newbies
cheers

I dont work for one either.

Why post on here. If i had a payment that i did not make on my credit card i would take it to the proper authority's and let them handle it. This is not really the place. Have you contacted your credit card people and reported it. Who's to say they dint have someone new working there that has a history. Saying that they are obligated by law to delete any credit card information after a transaction. Let the right people handle it.

i think you have it wrong about the hobby shops having a massive markup. Yes i have worked for a hobby shop. The importers are the ones making the $$$. Picture this i was getting stuff at cost, however i still bought some stuff os as it was significantly cheaper with postage than what wholesale price here was.

Dude i dont know you and you probably dont know me but your comment's are not very nice and baseless .

You dont want to support the local hobby store well then thats your business but i ask you this who do you think sponsors the club and main events this country runs ?

Is it Amain hobbies? rc mushroom? rc mart? Hobbyking? or any other online store from around the world ?No its your local distributor and your local hobby shop and the clubs that put in all the hard work that do this to bring events for you to run in and have fun .

N.s.w titles look at there raffle all the prizes are from local people not overseas and there is more than $10,000 in prizes .maybe if everyone supported the local there would be more prizes and more events and lower pricing.

You say in your comments that the lhs drive flashy cars that you pay for well mate you wouldn't have a clue as one day i would like to take you to Asia hong kong and show you what the people who you support by buying overseas drive and live in you would have a heart attack .I know the lot of them trust me.

I bet you also didnt know that any hobby shop or any business really in hong kong that sells products to outsiders(OUTSIDE OF HONG KONG) doesn't pay tax on the profits of sales only pays when sold locally ( its nothing illegal thats there system and law)I BET YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT .There are alot of things you just dont know thats why i said your post is meaningless and baseless as you dont understand the system.

The local hobby store in Australia is suffering from people like you who send your dollar overseas to save a few bucks but you dont understand that you are costing jobs how about if it was your industry being shipped overseas how would you feel then and you didnt have a job and couldnt pay your morgage or your car and couldnt do r/c which i can see you love?

The Asia markets can afford to be cheaper as there cost of living is low and they sell worldwide and they make most of there funds on delivery chargers .example 1.5 million customers a year ,add $3.00 per shipment per customer which a cusomter is not going to mind and the total is $4.5 million in freight profit thats how they work .Thats why they can add only 15% profit to the product as also they buy direct from manufacturers in china no middle man like a distributor.

We in Oz also have alot of things against us in business

1.High taxes example indirect
2.low population (big problem)
3 expensve freight costs
4.higher living costs
5.high interest rates which are higher for business if unsecured
6.lower wage increases .
7.lots of unemployment benefits paid for people who can work (big problem)
8 extreme business restrictions and laws.
9.highest rentals in the world .

and many more factors its not just greed as you specified.its reality sit down and do the math

In Aus to buy maccas it cost's the following 2 x double cheese burger meals large 2 x big mack meals large and 40 nuggets at the cost of probably $35 pr more do you know in hong kong and china what the cost is $15.00 only so there cost of living is even less and if it's traditional meals 8 people can eat for $20 at a flashy restaurant .Im just giving you some examples on how these people make money and save at the same time .

Come on dude im sure your smarter than that and your just having a bad day .But one thing i will agree with you is that yes there are some hobby shops with poor service but with a little education im sure they will come good everyone needs to educate eachother

SUPPORT YOUR FELLOW AUSSIE I SAY AND KEEP THEM IN A JOB .

Guys sorry for the long reply just stating facts so all caan understand

ps:yes i am a manufacturer and distributor and my Aussie dollar gets spent overseas buying stock but my dollar returns to stimulate the Australian economy were your dollar never returns .

I agree that the hobbyshops are good for when you need a part on the spot, but if you can handle waiting a week you can get it for half price or nearly half price on the net. Why pay $500 for a motor/esc combo when you can get on posted from states for $280 NIB? I dont know how much the hobby shop suppliers are selling the stuff to the hobby shops for but someone along the line is making alot money