Go-Tech Engines Thread
#9631
No - the GX Series cannot use the older 28-0600 rod. They require the newer 21-0600 rod.
Here is a post I did a few weeks ago on the subject. It might help to clear things up -
"CRANK SHAFTS
Gen 5.5, GX Series TiNi and MG66 TiNi coated cranks can be fitted to all Generations of GO engines - but you must use the right con rod.
CON RODS
The new Pro Con Rod (part # 21-0600) can only be fitted to the Gen 5.5, GX Series TiNi, and MG66 TiNi cranks. This rod is NOT compatible with any Gen 5 or earlier motor.
The Gen 5 and earlier motors require the older Pro Con Rod (part # 28-0600)
Reason being the differing crank pin sizes and internal diameters of the con rod big end bushings given by Massive Mods in his earlier post.
TiNi WRIST PINS
These are compatible with all the GO motors."
FYI -
Gen 5.5, GX, MG66 - Rod ID = 5 mm & crank pin dia = 4.993 mm
Gen 5 and earlier - Rod ID = 4.98 mm & crank pin dia = 4.973
You can see the problem. New rod is too sloppy on the old crank, and the old rod is too tight on the new crank.
Here is a post I did a few weeks ago on the subject. It might help to clear things up -
"CRANK SHAFTS
Gen 5.5, GX Series TiNi and MG66 TiNi coated cranks can be fitted to all Generations of GO engines - but you must use the right con rod.
CON RODS
The new Pro Con Rod (part # 21-0600) can only be fitted to the Gen 5.5, GX Series TiNi, and MG66 TiNi cranks. This rod is NOT compatible with any Gen 5 or earlier motor.
The Gen 5 and earlier motors require the older Pro Con Rod (part # 28-0600)
Reason being the differing crank pin sizes and internal diameters of the con rod big end bushings given by Massive Mods in his earlier post.
TiNi WRIST PINS
These are compatible with all the GO motors."
FYI -
Gen 5.5, GX, MG66 - Rod ID = 5 mm & crank pin dia = 4.993 mm
Gen 5 and earlier - Rod ID = 4.98 mm & crank pin dia = 4.973
You can see the problem. New rod is too sloppy on the old crank, and the old rod is too tight on the new crank.
Rex
This is how I check them, it reads down to .0001 inch or .003 mm.
#9632
I've a go tech 3port turbo with red head. The silver part of the carb (that goes inside the crank case) is rotating around the plastic, in the past I've tried to glue it on with some tire glue but it keeps on getting un-done...so my question is..
1. Do I need the complete carb assembly or just the main body?
2. Also i'm thinking about getting a new p/s/rod set...would the one for 5port go tech work in my crank case?
1. Do I need the complete carb assembly or just the main body?
2. Also i'm thinking about getting a new p/s/rod set...would the one for 5port go tech work in my crank case?
Rex
#9633
I can only go on factory specs and advice from those in the know, and that's what I have been told. I advise my customers to use the rod listed for their Gen of motor to alleviate any possibility of problems. If people want to fit old rods to new cranks and new rods to old cranks, then go for it. But don't come to me with a broken motor crying foul and expecting a replacement 
The advice given is done so in good faith. You can take it or leave it

The advice given is done so in good faith. You can take it or leave it
#9634
I can only go on factory specs and advice from those in the know, and that's what I have been told. I advise my customers to use the rod listed for their Gen of motor to alleviate any possibility of problems. If people want to fit old rods to new cranks and new rods to old cranks, then go for it. But don't come to me with a broken motor crying foul and expecting a replacement 
The advice given is done so in good faith. You can take it or leave it

The advice given is done so in good faith. You can take it or leave it

or should i save the coin and get a new motor?
cheers shane
#9635
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Thanks for the quick responses guys. For the carb you guys think that just the carb body (amain part #GOT22-2001) would suffice for now?
I was on amain and saw the whole p/s/rod set for like $60 that is super cheapppp compared to my picco and nova motors you can only afford a rod for that much!! I'll run this engine to the ground then pick up the new gx. I'm really impressed with the quality of go engines and to top it off the parts are really affordable. Wonder why pro's aren't running these mills??
I was on amain and saw the whole p/s/rod set for like $60 that is super cheapppp compared to my picco and nova motors you can only afford a rod for that much!! I'll run this engine to the ground then pick up the new gx. I'm really impressed with the quality of go engines and to top it off the parts are really affordable. Wonder why pro's aren't running these mills??
#9636
I will check in before the NI to see if you want anything. I will have a sh-t load of parts with me anyway, so anything you do need I should have down there.
Thanks for the quick responses guys. For the carb you guys think that just the carb body (amain part #GOT22-2001) would suffice for now?
I was on amain and saw the whole p/s/rod set for like $60 that is super cheapppp compared to my picco and nova motors you can only afford a rod for that much!! I'll run this engine to the ground then pick up the new gx. I'm really impressed with the quality of go engines and to top it off the parts are really affordable. Wonder why pro's aren't running these mills??
I was on amain and saw the whole p/s/rod set for like $60 that is super cheapppp compared to my picco and nova motors you can only afford a rod for that much!! I'll run this engine to the ground then pick up the new gx. I'm really impressed with the quality of go engines and to top it off the parts are really affordable. Wonder why pro's aren't running these mills??
Get the new nitrile rubber OR-0004 and OR-0014 O Rings as well to replace the old ones when you fit the new carb.
The really early GO's had a few floors, and unfortunately became the butt of a lot of bad comments from knockers. These same people now still knock the new products (some 6 models removed from the originals) without really knowing anything about them. These are the same people who buy super expensive motors and expect them to last forever because of the extra money they paid for them. Ha ha, there's one born every minute.
The new GX Series motors are right up there. The image of the GO motors has taken on new strength over the last 6 months, with a lot of people joining the trend. We have had a good response in the Southern Hemisphere with some top drivers wanting to run these motors. I don't think it will be long before you see some well known names giving them a try.
#9637
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Mate, I would put a few pennies away and get a new GX-7R for that buggy. You will be very impressed !!
I will check in before the NI to see if you want anything. I will have a sh-t load of parts with me anyway, so anything you do need I should have down there.
22-2001-P2 is the baby you want. No more plastic inserts to break on these.
Get the new nitrile rubber OR-0004 and OR-0014 O Rings as well to replace the old ones when you fit the new carb.
The really early GO's had a few floors, and unfortunately became the butt of a lot of bad comments from knockers. These same people now still knock the new products (some 6 models removed from the originals) without really knowing anything about them. These are the same people who buy super expensive motors and expect them to last forever because of the extra money they paid for them. Ha ha, there's one born every minute.
The new GX Series motors are right up there. The image of the GO motors has taken on new strength over the last 6 months, with a lot of people joining the trend. We have had a good response in the Southern Hemisphere with some top drivers wanting to run these motors. I don't think it will be long before you see some well known names giving them a try.
I will check in before the NI to see if you want anything. I will have a sh-t load of parts with me anyway, so anything you do need I should have down there.
22-2001-P2 is the baby you want. No more plastic inserts to break on these.
Get the new nitrile rubber OR-0004 and OR-0014 O Rings as well to replace the old ones when you fit the new carb.
The really early GO's had a few floors, and unfortunately became the butt of a lot of bad comments from knockers. These same people now still knock the new products (some 6 models removed from the originals) without really knowing anything about them. These are the same people who buy super expensive motors and expect them to last forever because of the extra money they paid for them. Ha ha, there's one born every minute.
The new GX Series motors are right up there. The image of the GO motors has taken on new strength over the last 6 months, with a lot of people joining the trend. We have had a good response in the Southern Hemisphere with some top drivers wanting to run these motors. I don't think it will be long before you see some well known names giving them a try.
#9638
Hey All
As previously stated re Rods and crank pins being the same as before , this is incorrect information. Please dont base your purchases on this info .
New Crank pins are 4.99 mm the .003 is added by the TiNi coating. The new rods have different dia too.
Rex i dont know if the rod you are measuring is new or not but it looks like its been used . this will give you a different reading . Its also a good idea to get into some digital read out gear if you want to measure accurately down past .01 mm incriments.
Cheers MM
As previously stated re Rods and crank pins being the same as before , this is incorrect information. Please dont base your purchases on this info .
New Crank pins are 4.99 mm the .003 is added by the TiNi coating. The new rods have different dia too.
Rex i dont know if the rod you are measuring is new or not but it looks like its been used . this will give you a different reading . Its also a good idea to get into some digital read out gear if you want to measure accurately down past .01 mm incriments.
Cheers MM
#9640
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From: Virginia
Interesting Mark, could you please post pics of the
old and new style con rods being measured with your
digital gear? I would like to see the digital readings.
Also, who makes your digital measuring devices?
I am looking to invest in a descent digital measuring
set-up.
old and new style con rods being measured with your
digital gear? I would like to see the digital readings.
Also, who makes your digital measuring devices?
I am looking to invest in a descent digital measuring
set-up.
#9642
I measured brand new rods right out of the package, Gx (pro)and older ones. I will measure some more though. The picture is just to show the bore guage not the actual rod, yes that one is used.
Mark, I posted that this bore guage reads down to .0001 inch or .003 mm, that is more accurate than .01mm as you stated. This bore guage I use is well over $1000.00 new.
Rex
Mark, I posted that this bore guage reads down to .0001 inch or .003 mm, that is more accurate than .01mm as you stated. This bore guage I use is well over $1000.00 new.
Rex
#9644
#9645
Interesting Mark, could you please post pics of the
old and new style con rods being measured with your
digital gear? I would like to see the digital readings.
Also, who makes your digital measuring devices?
I am looking to invest in a descent digital measuring
set-up.
old and new style con rods being measured with your
digital gear? I would like to see the digital readings.
Also, who makes your digital measuring devices?
I am looking to invest in a descent digital measuring
set-up.
The point is for future is to use digital READ OUT . Its way more easy to read than to use standard gauge in terms of READING accurately past 0.01 mm incriments.



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