tiko---- It really depends on which avenue you would like to go...Battery way's I mean. If your looking to run NiMh I would suggest a great starter car that has low entry cost's is a Associated car(because LHS carry alot of parts). However If your looking towards the future. Consider the BMI DB12RR. Man that's a nice rig. Gonna purchase one once I get back from vacation with the family. "Hint Hint" Jason!!! Drove last year's car tonight and man that thing is on rails.

Iam looking into getting a Speedmerchant Rev 4 and am fairly new to electirc pan cars. what exactly is a modified motor? what classifies a motor as modified? is there a specific turn rating that you have to have in order to be classified as mod? Thanks!

Thanks for the input SWAMPDOG. I think that Lipo is the future, so yes I would lean towards a car that is going to accommodate Lipo batteries. I’ll look in to the BMI DB12RR. Thanks

Tiko

For brushless motors, 17.5 is stock and 13.5 is super stock. Anything lower is considered modified. Anything not sensored would also be classified as modified.

For brushed motors, 27T is stock and 19T is super stock. Anything lower then that is modified.

Thanks Casper,
Iam still a little bit confused as what the modified class is...Are you allowed to run any turn rating in a modified class as long as its below 19t? Or do they restrict you to using say a 12t modified?

in the US we have stock(17.5 brushless/27 brushed), superstock (13.5brushless/19brushed). all other motors are considered modified.

I am not aware of any classes that restrict motors in modified anymore. Basically in modified you can run ANY motor you want. You can run a 6T brushed motor or a 3.5 BL motor. What ever you feel you can hang on to.

You can even run stock motors in modified if you want to. I run my 13.5 in mod truck all the time. The track is tight enough, more motor is not always better (for me at least).

If you run the spec classes you are limited to the motor you can run. Modified is open motor rules. (size and construction are the only limits. Not wind)

To be blunt, chances are that if you are not "clear" what modified racing is, than you need to be racing stock or superstock at your local club or race events to get your feet wet first.

As Yang (theisgroup) stated, by definition of ROAR rules in the USA (www.roarracing.com), they classify Stock as 27T Brushed or 17.5 Brushless, SuperStock as 19T Brushed or 13.5 Brushless. Any motor winding lower than these is considered a modified motor.

If you race in a modified class, you will be using pretty much the fastest motor you can control for the track conditions. Modified usually means "Open", but the actual rules/limitations of "Modified" are set by the race director of the track or event, or by ROAR rules if the race event is organized by ROAR.

Actually as of 2009 Super stock is 13.5BL motors only. You cannot run a brushed motor in super stock for a ROAR sanctioned event.

So as of now it would be useless to purchase a 19t brushed motor because the superstock class is changing to brushless only?
In your opinions what would be a better buy? I can get my hands on a Ko Propo VFS-2000 ESC for 60 dollars from a buddie at the track and then suit it with a Team Brood 19t Atlas Blue Pro Tuned motor (40 USD) or should i go with an Associated Eraser Brushless Digital 13.5t Motor system for around 140 USD? Iam fairly new to carpet racing and plan on putting one of these systems in a SpeedMerchant Rev 4 and eventually start racing locally.
Thanks again for all the help, you guys are the best

If you're going to be racing at a local club, don't buy a 19T Brushed motor and ESC. Talk to the guys at the club and find out what they are running for motor and ESC.


The LRP/Associated Eraser combo is a good initial system, BUT, the height of the ESC's heatsink will probably be a problem for most 1/12 scale bodies, as the bodies sit pretty low to the the equipment, and to get your car working properly, you need the body pretty low. Additionally, that ESC is on the large and heavy side, making it a very tight fit for all your equipment. If you are on a budget, I would ask the guys at the club your running at if they have an ESC for sale that will work with 1/12 scale, or look here on RCTech for a used one.

Hi , need some advise from the proz.
How can I get droop from my front Xray XII suspensions? I need more on power steering what must I do. What Does the amount of grease in my damper change on the car?
Now for the T bar what does the front two screws change .. the amount they are screwed into the T bar, touching the chassis?

And any news when those tyre warmers for 12th will be out... they were first seen at the 12th worlds last year
Thanks

You have a PM...I have exactly what you want for sale...Rev 4.5 both brushed and brushless. Both Built by Mike Odonell.

Andy Griffiths has sent me a few photos of his new V-Dezign Carpet Ripper 2.0. I've put them in the gallery at www.carsrcracing.co.uk for everyone to see. Click here to go straight to the album.

Trev

Come to ask for some help guys and gals.

Converting over to brushless on a 12L5 and Gen-X 1/12 scale in a 17.5 cell running lipo's.

What is the difference in roll out for the brushless motors now?

Any charts out there?

Any help would be great along with any set-ups. I am new to the 12L5 suspension on the rear and have to learn the finer points.

Thanks