Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree195Likes

Novarossi engines thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-24-2009 | 03:43 AM
  #3076  
Grinder's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,864
Default

Originally Posted by NitroWD
how does the 2604 perform against 2630?
and also between 2604 and 2601?

thanks...
The 2604/ and 2601 are the same pipe with different logos on them. I am pretty sure that the Max 2602 is the same too. The Novarossi is the 2601, and the RB is the 2604. These pipes give slightly more bottom end than the 2630. The 2630 has a little more peak power, and makes it's power higher in the rpm range than the 2601.

Fuel mileage is very hard to predict for each person. One pipe may give you more power, therefor you are less aggressive on the throttle. Sometimes this can get you better fuel mileage than using a pipe with less power, and runtime because you are always on the throttle sucking the fuel.

The 2630 will also run out of fuel about one lap earlier than the 2601. Everything else being equal. Say 15-30 seconds more with the 2601.
Grinder is offline  
Old 02-24-2009 | 06:53 AM
  #3077  
keavze's Avatar
Tech Addict
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 590
Default

Originally Posted by Grinder
The 2604/ and 2601 are the same pipe with different logos on them. I am pretty sure that the Max 2602 is the same too. The Novarossi is the 2601, and the RB is the 2604. These pipes give slightly more bottom end than the 2630. The 2630 has a little more peak power, and makes it's power higher in the rpm range than the 2601.

Fuel mileage is very hard to predict for each person. One pipe may give you more power, therefor you are less aggressive on the throttle. Sometimes this can get you better fuel mileage than using a pipe with less power, and runtime because you are always on the throttle sucking the fuel.

The 2630 will also run out of fuel about one lap earlier than the 2601. Everything else being equal. Say 15-30 seconds more with the 2601.
great!
just the info i needed as well.
keavze is offline  
Old 02-24-2009 | 08:00 AM
  #3078  
gearhead_22's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,602
From: Philly
Default

what's up guys I have a 35plus21. Has less than a gallon including break in, and the piston looks like this is that ok.
Attached Thumbnails Novarossi engines thread-piston.jpg  
gearhead_22 is offline  
Old 02-24-2009 | 08:24 AM
  #3079  
Team Kamikaze's Avatar
Tech Champion
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 8,868
From: 我的名字是沈先生。我是中国人, 居住美国
Default

Originally Posted by gearhead_22
what's up guys I have a 35plus21. Has less than a gallon including break in, and the piston looks like this is that ok.
It looks really good, that's a perfect!
Team Kamikaze is offline  
Old 02-24-2009 | 08:41 AM
  #3080  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 511
Default

looks a little lean... ?
randay is offline  
Old 02-24-2009 | 11:36 AM
  #3081  
DS Motorsport's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,448
From: The Netherlands
Default

Really depends on what fuel you are using. For example in my racing engines i run Runnertime fuel, because of the special oil's it gives the entire engine a lightly brown colour.
But when i use Tornado on the practice engines it burns completely clean, even when i ran them a tad on the rich side.

But your engine looks good, if you will run the engine with this colour it will last quite a while.
DS Motorsport is offline  
Old 02-24-2009 | 01:17 PM
  #3082  
Roelof's Avatar
Tech Lord
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 14,045
From: Holland
Default

Actualy the dark color comes mostly from castor oil. Running with synthetic oil wil give a much lighter color.
Roelof is offline  
Old 02-25-2009 | 03:06 PM
  #3083  
Riketsu's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,605
From: Florida
Default

In my own personal opinion... When my piston reaches that color... I always take a polisher (Blue Magic or similar) and remove that carbon buildup. Always making sure not to touch the sides of the piston. I do this so the next time I run, I can look at the piston and know if it was ran too lean or too rich. Many people have different perspectives on this matter, some say that carbon buildup is not supposed to be removed... But hence why I started this paragraph with "My own personal opinion"
Riketsu is offline  
Old 02-25-2009 | 03:36 PM
  #3084  
ezveedub's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,432
From: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Default

I leave the carbon coating alone, only if it starts to build up a crust layer on the top, then maybe remove it with polish, but never touch the sides. The crust layer will actually start to raise the compression over time. I also look at the sides of the piston at the carbon coating. This give you a good look a how well the piston is sealing to the sleeve. You can also clean the head button and run the engine and look at that for mixture tune, but like someone else said, its the fuel you run that will have different colors or hues, so you have to know you're fuel to do this.
ezveedub is offline  
Old 02-25-2009 | 03:55 PM
  #3085  
Ivan Dickson's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,957
From: Cali Love USA
Questions?? Connecting Rod

To all Novarossi owner, are you suppose to replace the connecting rod after breaking in the engine? this will be my first Nova I just want to make sure I get it right, the model I plan to get is 353 2008... any feedback is appreciated.
Ivan Dickson is offline  
Old 02-25-2009 | 04:14 PM
  #3086  
NiTrO BoOsTeR's Avatar
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 947
From: Toowoomba
Default

Gday, i just bought a Novarossi 3sct-tuned and i have put about 2-3L on it and that includes break in and i still dont have any play in the rod, so i guess just check it after each run and if there is play replace it.

Mitchell
NiTrO BoOsTeR is offline  
Old 02-25-2009 | 04:43 PM
  #3087  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,120
From: www.moorebankraceway.com
Default

Originally Posted by Ivan Dickson
To all Novarossi owner, are you suppose to replace the connecting rod after breaking in the engine? this will be my first Nova I just want to make sure I get it right, the model I plan to get is 353 2008... any feedback is appreciated.

change it after 5 litres, then at 10, then again at 15. after this it should be at least another 10 to 15 litres before you get any need to change. It really depends on how tight the engine is, sometimes you can get away with just a change at 5 or maybe even 10.

with plug out, put piston at top dead centre and move flywheel, the free movement when the piston is locked at top is the play, you shouldn't have too much, a small amount (maybe 1 or 2 degrees of movement) is always visible though.
TomB is offline  
Old 02-25-2009 | 08:11 PM
  #3088  
kitracer's Avatar
Tech Fanatic
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 986
From: hong kong
Default

Originally Posted by gearhead_22
what's up guys I have a 35plus21. Has less than a gallon including break in, and the piston looks like this is that ok.
"My opinion" the top of piston,n button head not that important. Clean it with the fuel you used will get most (or enough) of them off.
But if you start seeing the piston's ring getting that much ash/burn, then may be a problem.
kitracer is offline  
Old 02-26-2009 | 08:25 AM
  #3089  
Ivan Dickson's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,957
From: Cali Love USA
Default

Originally Posted by NiTrO BoOsTeR
Gday, i just bought a Novarossi 3sct-tuned and i have put about 2-3L on it and that includes break in and i still dont have any play in the rod, so i guess just check it after each run and if there is play replace it.

Mitchell
Originally Posted by TomB
change it after 5 litres, then at 10, then again at 15. after this it should be at least another 10 to 15 litres before you get any need to change. It really depends on how tight the engine is, sometimes you can get away with just a change at 5 or maybe even 10.

with plug out, put piston at top dead centre and move flywheel, the free movement when the piston is locked at top is the play, you shouldn't have too much, a small amount (maybe 1 or 2 degrees of movement) is always visible though.
Thanks Mitchell & TomB for your feedback...
Ivan Dickson is offline  
Old 02-26-2009 | 01:18 PM
  #3090  
gearhead_22's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,602
From: Philly
Thumbs up 359

Thanks for the info guys
gearhead_22 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.