Congratulations on the new track. Glad to see you guys making it work by settling for two smaller tracks. Your track will be pretty similar in size to what we race on here in Spokane (~50x30).
If your primary audience is seasoned off roaders, I don't think you'll have an issue with sticker shock. They know what it cost to put a car together and a 1/12th scale chassis and electronics are no more expensive than bulding a complete carpet buggy. I think the bigger roadblocks will be the foam tires and the "voo doo" behind wrenching on a pan car. Are you doing open ROAR 21.5 or a spec motor?

We just built a 24x50 office carpet on road track down in Grants Pass to go next to our off-road. We have black carpet tracks an hour and two hours away.

What are you specifically wanting help with guiding the off roaders with? Happy to answer any questions. GT12R is super popular in Southern Oregon (Roseburg and Klamath Falls) Foam is a smaller following but getting pan cars into hands will slowly get people to run foam also.

Glad I came here to ask.

Specifically... well I guess ya'll answered my vague questions!

GT12R sounds like the entry.

Yes, sticker shock realistically won't be the effect I am feeling it could be.

Roar rules at the moment.

Here's a juicy question... If it was your track/store, what brand chassis/spares would you stock?

Thank you all!

CRC,XRAY,AMX,Destiny. All of em. Heck, throw Schumacher, Roche and eXcelerate in there too.

Awe yeah!

Now that's the enthusiasm I'm talkin bout!

Let it rip!
-Tommy

I would want to stock cars that would go fast with the least about of struggle for my customers so...Schumacher, Xray and AMX. Anyone can set those cars up and go fast right away with minimal fuss. Other cars...you gotta know what you are doing.

I think my favorite part about GT12R is that you can be entry level or "expert" and it's not necessarily frowned upon either way. Makes it a great club class. A younger RC hobbyist jumping straight into foam doesn't always go well.


It's always tough to predict what cars are going to be popular. For instant, oddly, nobody runs AMX down here. (You see one randomly every once in awhile.) Destiny, CRC, Schumacher, Roche and the random Xray and Excelerate are what we run. But then you guys aren't to terribly far away from Awesomatix USA so that is something to consider.

21.5 foam might be the ticket for the size of y'alls track. 17.5 is pushing it on that small of track unfortunately (17.5 is a fun amount of power on spec foams I think)

Oh, it's definitely frowned upon when an "expert" runs GT12... (incite aggressive crickets chirping)

Hahaha! I should have said local “experts”

Especially at my local less matured facilities/tracks there isn’t always a place for expert/fast drivers to run. 21.5 touring car isn’t a guarantee. Foam 12th scale isn’t a guarantee. I’m personally seasoned and talented enough I don’t need to be in a Tamiya tub class stomping kids and newbies. Depending on who shows up certain days GT12R is the fastest class.

If Bruno showed up to a decent sized club race he shouldn’t be in GT12R. But also to be fair, Orlowski is a European GT12 champion 🤣

Yes, a few of us have already had the excitement rush back as we put our 21.5 foam cars down for laps. I let my 9 and 11 year old kiddos use my 21.5 Foam car and they loved it. ...The rc crawlers, nintendo, and drones must be teaching them somethin!

Thank you all!
-Tommy

My opinion; stick with LMP bodies and purple stripe tires with 21.5/17.5 motors. For me there is too much goofing around with GT bodies, bumpers, mounts, and gears just to run rubber tires. I have been running a kit Schumacher E5 setup since it was released and it is more competitive than my driving is. Plenty of wall hits and haven't broken anything, but did lose a side spring once.

Ya know, I have to agree. U can hand anyone a 21.5 and cool LMP on foams and they just rip. Even my kiddos with no track experience.

I am considering bringing stripe tires, a truer and painted LMP bodies to club nights. A "mobile neutral support" if you will.

Appreciate the reply. -Tommy

LMP rubber tire like they ran at Snowbirds?

I would love to see some setups for 17.5 LMP rubber tire. I tried to mess with it last week on a practice day at my track and it was snap oversteer every corner. I dont have enough experience to know if the rubber tires were just breaking loose mid corner due to the 17.5 motor vs 21.5 or if the LMP body really changed the downforce that much compared to a GT12 body.

I have brought my truer, old tires and old bodies along to help people get going. Even if an old set of foam only has 5 minutes left on them and body has numerous cracks, it is more than enough to prove the point; kit setup, set ride height, check tweak, set steering end points, let 'er eat! Haven't had anyone come off the stand with a bad attitude.