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Yep, ToolkitRC M8 and M8D chargers. I didn't know they typically read lower than iChargers. I considered it to be okay because my good Motiv packs(back in, like , 2018) never read below about 1.2 and they were the punchiest I've ever run. Relative to your findings... this Protek pack has more than double the IR. That's pretty bad. I'll be interested to see what the CRC reads when I get it. I did look into SMC, but they only have a single clearance 1s battery on their site and are very clear that is has subpar specs compared to their last batch.
Share your findings when you test those batteries! I'd definitely be curious to know.
Share your findings when you test those batteries! I'd definitely be curious to know.
These chargers read precise voltage and IR via balance ports, so you値l need a 1S cable with a balance connection. Alternatively, re-pin a 2S cable by removing the center pin, and replacing it with the right pin.
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If you have a 2s charge lead and an Icharger you can use this adapter to charge 1s batteries without having to rewire.
https://tqwire.com/shop/rc-products/...for-ichargers/
https://tqwire.com/shop/rc-products/...for-ichargers/
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The new CRC battery performed well. Here are the numbers compared to a season-old (40-ish cycles) SMC 8,000. Again, this is one of the original 1S packs (AKA 1st batch):
Time CRC 7,500 SMC 8,000
1-minute: 4.076V 4.057V
2-minutes: 4.007V 3.996V
3-minutes: 3.937V 3.934V
4-minutes: 3.873V 3.867V
6-minutes: 3.787V 3.781V
8-minutes: 3.728V 3.719V
Time CRC 7,500 SMC 8,000
1-minute: 4.076V 4.057V
2-minutes: 4.007V 3.996V
3-minutes: 3.937V 3.934V
4-minutes: 3.873V 3.867V
6-minutes: 3.787V 3.781V
8-minutes: 3.728V 3.719V
The new CRC battery performed well. Here are the numbers compared to a season-old (40-ish cycles) SMC 8,000. Again, this is one of the original 1S packs (AKA 1st batch):
Time CRC 7,500 SMC 8,000
1-minute: 4.076V 4.057V
2-minutes: 4.007V 3.996V
3-minutes: 3.937V 3.934V
4-minutes: 3.873V 3.867V
6-minutes: 3.787V 3.781V
8-minutes: 3.728V 3.719V
Time CRC 7,500 SMC 8,000
1-minute: 4.076V 4.057V
2-minutes: 4.007V 3.996V
3-minutes: 3.937V 3.934V
4-minutes: 3.873V 3.867V
6-minutes: 3.787V 3.781V
8-minutes: 3.728V 3.719V
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Results...
CRC 7,500 SMC 8,000
1 min 2.0 1.2
2 min .9 1.2
3 min .9 1.2
4 min .9 1.2
5 min .9 1.2
6 min .9 1.1
7 min .9 1.2
8 min .8 1.1
Last edited by biz77; 02-14-2025 at 01:38 PM.
Those numbers look pretty dang good. I wonder how the CRC battery will measure up a few months of racing? A few locals here have told me the CRC batteries can have a tendency to puff, but nobody has the new 150C 7500mAh cell.
I was keeping an eye on IR and voltage with my Protek 8800 LiHV this weekend, and charging to 4.20V @20A, IR floated right around 2.2 when the battery got hot. The track was a lot more technically demanding, and the battery was not the limiting factor, but the twisty infield definitely had me noticing falloff a bit more than I'm used to. The battery is also 4mm bullets, which means I need to bring a separate charge cable for it... So in light of that, I have the CRC and EAM batteries on order. I'll eventually sell one off and keep two of the same as I have aspirations of jumping into 13.5 next season(potentially).
I was keeping an eye on IR and voltage with my Protek 8800 LiHV this weekend, and charging to 4.20V @20A, IR floated right around 2.2 when the battery got hot. The track was a lot more technically demanding, and the battery was not the limiting factor, but the twisty infield definitely had me noticing falloff a bit more than I'm used to. The battery is also 4mm bullets, which means I need to bring a separate charge cable for it... So in light of that, I have the CRC and EAM batteries on order. I'll eventually sell one off and keep two of the same as I have aspirations of jumping into 13.5 next season(potentially).
I used the Junsi console to capture the data. It does not capture IR. I can run them again and just keep an eye on IR reading. The only caveat is the IR reading only updates periodically on the iCharger.
Results...
CRC 7,500 SMC 8,000
1 min 2.0 1.2
2 min .9 1.2
3 min .9 1.2
4 min .9 1.2
5 min .9 1.2
6 min .9 1.1
7 min .9 1.2
8 min .8 1.1
Results...
CRC 7,500 SMC 8,000
1 min 2.0 1.2
2 min .9 1.2
3 min .9 1.2
4 min .9 1.2
5 min .9 1.2
6 min .9 1.1
7 min .9 1.2
8 min .8 1.1
I got the CRC SHO 7500 150C and EAM Graph-X 7500 130C batteries this week. Did 4 easy “break in” cycles of 1C charge and 2C discharge on them before running them. Compared to the Protek… holy cow! I feel a bit more punch earlier in the run but the end of the run is where they really made a difference(as expected). I think either one is an excellent choice.
The CRC battery is definitely the better of the two. It has noticeably more punch out of corners and seemed to remain most powerful of the three at the 8 minute mark. After a few cycles, IR on my Toolkitrc charger was reading 0.4-0.6 ohm. At the end of 8 minutes, I wasn’t having to push the car to 10/10ths to keep my lap times consistent. The EAM battery was roughly the same effect, just not as magnified. IR was reading 0.9-1.1 ohm and, compared to the CRC, I definitely had to push the car harder at the end of a session to keep lap times low. This is not unexpected as the C rating is lower and IR was higher. I did try charging at 30A to help with that and IR did drop to 0.8, FWIW.
One thing of note: the quality of the case fitment on the EAM was a bit better. Not enough to justify the extra $$$ though. The CRC is killer for the money, I’ll also be curious to see how these are both doing in a month or two.
All of this to say battery expected to do better did do better.
The CRC battery is definitely the better of the two. It has noticeably more punch out of corners and seemed to remain most powerful of the three at the 8 minute mark. After a few cycles, IR on my Toolkitrc charger was reading 0.4-0.6 ohm. At the end of 8 minutes, I wasn’t having to push the car to 10/10ths to keep my lap times consistent. The EAM battery was roughly the same effect, just not as magnified. IR was reading 0.9-1.1 ohm and, compared to the CRC, I definitely had to push the car harder at the end of a session to keep lap times low. This is not unexpected as the C rating is lower and IR was higher. I did try charging at 30A to help with that and IR did drop to 0.8, FWIW.
One thing of note: the quality of the case fitment on the EAM was a bit better. Not enough to justify the extra $$$ though. The CRC is killer for the money, I’ll also be curious to see how these are both doing in a month or two.
All of this to say battery expected to do better did do better.
SMC 8000Mah
I知 not sure if they値l be coming out with a replacement soon or if they値l only be temporarily discontinued, but $34.95 for the SMC pack seems too good to pass up. Snagged a couple yesterday.
I知 not sure if they値l be coming out with a replacement soon or if they値l only be temporarily discontinued, but $34.95 for the SMC pack seems too good to pass up. Snagged a couple yesterday.
SMC 8000Mah
I知 not sure if they値l be coming out with a replacement soon or if they値l only be temporarily discontinued, but $34.95 for the SMC pack seems too good to pass up. Snagged a couple yesterday.
I知 not sure if they値l be coming out with a replacement soon or if they値l only be temporarily discontinued, but $34.95 for the SMC pack seems too good to pass up. Snagged a couple yesterday.



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