ICharger Duo 458
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You sill need to know the type of balance connector on the battery in order for someone to recommend a balance board. That said... Chances are you don't need it, unless you are just wanting it. As said by Roelof you can plug the balance connector of your battery into the chargers balance port, no need for the board. I have never used balance boards for my batteries, but they all are JST xh connectors.
#33
Take a pic of your balance lead and post it.
#34
Do I need a1 S/2S Switched iCharger Balance Extension when charging my 1S lipo on the 458DUO.
Without it I see it charges but wondering if additional sensing is performed via the balance port on the charger to optimize the charge like in the 406DO ?
Without it I see it charges but wondering if additional sensing is performed via the balance port on the charger to optimize the charge like in the 406DO ?
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Also, can I just simply plug in the balance lead from the pack into the charger itself to charge a single pack. Ive always used balance boards. Pics below.



Can I simply just plug the balance lead in. Ground all the way to the right?
#37
Needing the cable that plugs into the Charger balance port then on the other end a charging board, which I use for charging multiple packs. Running a 24V power supply.
Also, can I just simply plug in the balance lead from the pack into the charger itself to charge a single pack. Ive always used balance boards. Pics below.
Can I simply just plug the balance lead in. Ground all the way to the right?
Also, can I just simply plug in the balance lead from the pack into the charger itself to charge a single pack. Ive always used balance boards. Pics below.
Can I simply just plug the balance lead in. Ground all the way to the right?
These are what you are looking for. https://www.progressiverc.com/produc...-balance-board
However, you can probably just cut off 2 pins from the 10 pin connector and still use it.
#38
Balance port on 1S is only used to measure the IR, it doesn't affect the charging.
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Yes you can plug that balance lead straight into the charger, ground all the way to the right, but that is a really short balance lead.
These are what you are looking for. https://www.progressiverc.com/produc...-balance-board
However, you can probably just cut off 2 pins from the 10 pin connector and still use it.
These are what you are looking for. https://www.progressiverc.com/produc...-balance-board
However, you can probably just cut off 2 pins from the 10 pin connector and still use it.
#44
I'm struggling here... I picked up a 456 Duo. I already have a 308 Duo and a DX6. I picked this up for testing compatibility for the resistor banks I use for my Battery Wizard. I have struggled getting the discharge current up to the stated max currents of the various iChargers with my resistor banks. With resistor banks of higher value, less load, I can discharge on my 308 Duo at 30A. The 308 Duo can use a 1Ω bank (5, 5Ω resistors in parallel) or a 200mΩ bank (5, 1Ω resistors in parallel). But, if I put my bank, 83mΩ (6, 500mΩ resistors in parallel) I can't get the max discharge current. The charger stops at about 65W on the load side even though it is in regen mode with the voltage and current settings maxed out. So that is the 308 Duo and the DX6, they behave the same.
Now the 456 Duo is even more of a mystery, With the 1Ω bank, I can get up to 38A, roughly 250W for the discharge. With the 200mΩ bank I can get about 25A, 160W, and with the 83mΩ bank I can only get to 11A or so, 65W. My best guess is that the iChargers are limiting the voltage based on the load size, and higher loads (lower IR banks) it limits the voltage output for safety reasons. Mind you, this is all with 2s batteries, I haven't tried this on a config higher than 2s.
So the question I have, has anyone got the new 456 or 458 Duo's to actually discharge 2s batteries at 45A? If so, what is the resistance of the resistor bank you are using?
Also, I have changed the max current and max voltage settings to other values and not max settings, but still can't get it to work. I am hoping that there is some setting that I have missed, I've read the manual and the manual gives no indication of actual load size to use for the regenerative discharge. Or at least none that I could find.
Now the 456 Duo is even more of a mystery, With the 1Ω bank, I can get up to 38A, roughly 250W for the discharge. With the 200mΩ bank I can get about 25A, 160W, and with the 83mΩ bank I can only get to 11A or so, 65W. My best guess is that the iChargers are limiting the voltage based on the load size, and higher loads (lower IR banks) it limits the voltage output for safety reasons. Mind you, this is all with 2s batteries, I haven't tried this on a config higher than 2s.
So the question I have, has anyone got the new 456 or 458 Duo's to actually discharge 2s batteries at 45A? If so, what is the resistance of the resistor bank you are using?
Also, I have changed the max current and max voltage settings to other values and not max settings, but still can't get it to work. I am hoping that there is some setting that I have missed, I've read the manual and the manual gives no indication of actual load size to use for the regenerative discharge. Or at least none that I could find.
#45
I'm struggling here... I picked up a 456 Duo. I already have a 308 Duo and a DX6. I picked this up for testing compatibility for the resistor banks I use for my Battery Wizard. I have struggled getting the discharge current up to the stated max currents of the various iChargers with my resistor banks. With resistor banks of higher value, less load, I can discharge on my 308 Duo at 30A. The 308 Duo can use a 1Ω bank (5, 5Ω resistors in parallel) or a 200mΩ bank (5, 1Ω resistors in parallel). But, if I put my bank, 83mΩ (6, 500mΩ resistors in parallel) I can't get the max discharge current. The charger stops at about 65W on the load side even though it is in regen mode with the voltage and current settings maxed out. So that is the 308 Duo and the DX6, they behave the same.
Now the 456 Duo is even more of a mystery, With the 1Ω bank, I can get up to 38A, roughly 250W for the discharge. With the 200mΩ bank I can get about 25A, 160W, and with the 83mΩ bank I can only get to 11A or so, 65W. My best guess is that the iChargers are limiting the voltage based on the load size, and higher loads (lower IR banks) it limits the voltage output for safety reasons. Mind you, this is all with 2s batteries, I haven't tried this on a config higher than 2s.
So the question I have, has anyone got the new 456 or 458 Duo's to actually discharge 2s batteries at 45A? If so, what is the resistance of the resistor bank you are using?
Also, I have changed the max current and max voltage settings to other values and not max settings, but still can't get it to work. I am hoping that there is some setting that I have missed, I've read the manual and the manual gives no indication of actual load size to use for the regenerative discharge. Or at least none that I could find.
Now the 456 Duo is even more of a mystery, With the 1Ω bank, I can get up to 38A, roughly 250W for the discharge. With the 200mΩ bank I can get about 25A, 160W, and with the 83mΩ bank I can only get to 11A or so, 65W. My best guess is that the iChargers are limiting the voltage based on the load size, and higher loads (lower IR banks) it limits the voltage output for safety reasons. Mind you, this is all with 2s batteries, I haven't tried this on a config higher than 2s.
So the question I have, has anyone got the new 456 or 458 Duo's to actually discharge 2s batteries at 45A? If so, what is the resistance of the resistor bank you are using?
Also, I have changed the max current and max voltage settings to other values and not max settings, but still can't get it to work. I am hoping that there is some setting that I have missed, I've read the manual and the manual gives no indication of actual load size to use for the regenerative discharge. Or at least none that I could find.



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