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Old 01-10-2024 | 10:11 AM
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That was my bad on my explanation. I'm just needing the cable/board that goes into the balance port of the new charger. Could you share a link of what cable it uses.

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You sill need to know the type of balance connector on the battery in order for someone to recommend a balance board. That said... Chances are you don't need it, unless you are just wanting it. As said by Roelof you can plug the balance connector of your battery into the chargers balance port, no need for the board. I have never used balance boards for my batteries, but they all are JST xh connectors.
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Old 01-10-2024 | 10:35 AM
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You sill need to know the type of balance connector on the battery in order for someone to recommend a balance board. That said... Chances are you don't need it, unless you are just wanting it. As said by Roelof you can plug the balance connector of your battery into the chargers balance port, no need for the board. I have never used balance boards for my batteries, but they all are JST xh connectors.
Gotcha. But I need that cable that plugs into the balance port. What do you plug your balance lead into on this new charger?
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Old 01-10-2024 | 10:43 AM
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Gotcha. But I need that cable that plugs into the balance port. What do you plug your balance lead into on this new charger?
We're not speaking the same language, lol. Most of us don't use a balance board. Just plug the balance lead into the charger, tab side up.

Take a pic of your balance lead and post it.
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Old 01-10-2024 | 11:14 AM
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Do I need a1 S/2S Switched iCharger Balance Extension when charging my 1S lipo on the 458DUO.

Without it I see it charges but wondering if additional sensing is performed via the balance port on the charger to optimize the charge like in the 406DO ?
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Old 01-10-2024 | 11:42 AM
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Random, but coming from an iCharger S6 I miss the charge status bar that shows the percent currently charged. No way to have this displayed on the 456/458 models is there?
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Old 01-10-2024 | 03:08 PM
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We're not speaking the same language, lol. Most of us don't use a balance board. Just plug the balance lead into the charger, tab side up.

Take a pic of your balance lead and post it.
Needing the cable that plugs into the Charger balance port then on the other end a charging board, which I use for charging multiple packs. Running a 24V power supply.
Also, can I just simply plug in the balance lead from the pack into the charger itself to charge a single pack. Ive always used balance boards. Pics below.




Can I simply just plug the balance lead in. Ground all the way to the right?

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Old 01-10-2024 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jkurz211
Needing the cable that plugs into the Charger balance port then on the other end a charging board, which I use for charging multiple packs. Running a 24V power supply.
Also, can I just simply plug in the balance lead from the pack into the charger itself to charge a single pack. Ive always used balance boards. Pics below.




Can I simply just plug the balance lead in. Ground all the way to the right?
Yes you can plug that balance lead straight into the charger, ground all the way to the right, but that is a really short balance lead.
These are what you are looking for. https://www.progressiverc.com/produc...-balance-board

However, you can probably just cut off 2 pins from the 10 pin connector and still use it.

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Old 01-10-2024 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Canuck
Do I need a1 S/2S Switched iCharger Balance Extension when charging my 1S lipo on the 458DUO.

Without it I see it charges but wondering if additional sensing is performed via the balance port on the charger to optimize the charge like in the 406DO ?
Balance port on 1S is only used to measure the IR, it doesn't affect the charging.
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Old 01-11-2024 | 04:00 PM
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Yellow plugs are XT60?
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Old 01-11-2024 | 04:04 PM
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Most used but there are also XT30, XT90 and even XT120 (and probably more....). With todays currents you do see the XT90 more often.
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Old 01-11-2024 | 04:14 PM
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The charger has XT60 or XT90 in it?
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Old 01-11-2024 | 04:29 PM
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Input EC8
Output XT90
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Old 01-11-2024 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by trilerian
Yes you can plug that balance lead straight into the charger, ground all the way to the right, but that is a really short balance lead.
These are what you are looking for. https://www.progressiverc.com/produc...-balance-board

However, you can probably just cut off 2 pins from the 10 pin connector and still use it.
Got them coming! Thank you!
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Old 02-03-2024 | 08:22 PM
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I'm struggling here... I picked up a 456 Duo. I already have a 308 Duo and a DX6. I picked this up for testing compatibility for the resistor banks I use for my Battery Wizard. I have struggled getting the discharge current up to the stated max currents of the various iChargers with my resistor banks. With resistor banks of higher value, less load, I can discharge on my 308 Duo at 30A. The 308 Duo can use a 1Ω bank (5, 5Ω resistors in parallel) or a 200mΩ bank (5, 1Ω resistors in parallel). But, if I put my bank, 83mΩ (6, 500mΩ resistors in parallel) I can't get the max discharge current. The charger stops at about 65W on the load side even though it is in regen mode with the voltage and current settings maxed out. So that is the 308 Duo and the DX6, they behave the same.

Now the 456 Duo is even more of a mystery, With the 1Ω bank, I can get up to 38A, roughly 250W for the discharge. With the 200mΩ bank I can get about 25A, 160W, and with the 83mΩ bank I can only get to 11A or so, 65W. My best guess is that the iChargers are limiting the voltage based on the load size, and higher loads (lower IR banks) it limits the voltage output for safety reasons. Mind you, this is all with 2s batteries, I haven't tried this on a config higher than 2s.

So the question I have, has anyone got the new 456 or 458 Duo's to actually discharge 2s batteries at 45A? If so, what is the resistance of the resistor bank you are using?
Also, I have changed the max current and max voltage settings to other values and not max settings, but still can't get it to work. I am hoping that there is some setting that I have missed, I've read the manual and the manual gives no indication of actual load size to use for the regenerative discharge. Or at least none that I could find.
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Old 02-04-2024 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by trilerian
I'm struggling here... I picked up a 456 Duo. I already have a 308 Duo and a DX6. I picked this up for testing compatibility for the resistor banks I use for my Battery Wizard. I have struggled getting the discharge current up to the stated max currents of the various iChargers with my resistor banks. With resistor banks of higher value, less load, I can discharge on my 308 Duo at 30A. The 308 Duo can use a 1Ω bank (5, 5Ω resistors in parallel) or a 200mΩ bank (5, 1Ω resistors in parallel). But, if I put my bank, 83mΩ (6, 500mΩ resistors in parallel) I can't get the max discharge current. The charger stops at about 65W on the load side even though it is in regen mode with the voltage and current settings maxed out. So that is the 308 Duo and the DX6, they behave the same.

Now the 456 Duo is even more of a mystery, With the 1Ω bank, I can get up to 38A, roughly 250W for the discharge. With the 200mΩ bank I can get about 25A, 160W, and with the 83mΩ bank I can only get to 11A or so, 65W. My best guess is that the iChargers are limiting the voltage based on the load size, and higher loads (lower IR banks) it limits the voltage output for safety reasons. Mind you, this is all with 2s batteries, I haven't tried this on a config higher than 2s.

So the question I have, has anyone got the new 456 or 458 Duo's to actually discharge 2s batteries at 45A? If so, what is the resistance of the resistor bank you are using?
Also, I have changed the max current and max voltage settings to other values and not max settings, but still can't get it to work. I am hoping that there is some setting that I have missed, I've read the manual and the manual gives no indication of actual load size to use for the regenerative discharge. Or at least none that I could find.
could u post pictures of the discharge process and the resistor banks thanks
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