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Old 02-20-2022 | 08:38 PM
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EA has told me that the Low CG packs made the car handle so much better the voltage/ir difference was not a concern. It seems to work for him.
Some clarification, you wrote Low CG, did you mean Ultra Low CG? Those are the packs that have higher IR for me.
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Old 02-21-2022 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by drivercorycraig
im my experience, despite the motors having some slight differences here and there ( 200-300 rpm and maybe .2-.3 amps ), they have ran the same on the race track. its an amazing motor for spec style races. i have seen some dirt oval and some off road classes utilize it. compaired to pen 21.5 motors however, it is lacking power. so if you run it against other open 21.5s u will be down on power, and will need to run a lot more gear then they will.
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The USGT motor is PERFECT for all spec classes where everyone runs the same motor. There isnt a wide variance from motor to motor. I liked the motor when we ran it here locally. It didn’t last as racers kept complaining that it’s not as fast as my XYZ motor…..blah, blah, blah. Racing was fun and bit closer for some.
Thanks for the info. For the oval versus standard USGT motor, any opinion on what would be better for 2wd buggy or is one faster than the other (assuming oval is)?
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Old 02-21-2022 | 07:22 AM
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Yes, curious on thoughts of LCG or ULCG for smaller indoor carpet tracks in USGT. (280g versus 245g packs)
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Old 02-22-2022 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by glennhl
Some clarification, you wrote Low CG, did you mean Ultra Low CG? Those are the packs that have higher IR for me.
This was like 5800 vs 7800 or 8000.
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Old 02-26-2022 | 07:21 PM
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So I have been doing USGT at my local track for 2 seasons now. And have become comfortable with my car and driving ability, now how to go faster??

let me give you soMe details on my ride. First off it’s a X-ray T4 20’. Is on the alum flex chassis. It has the USGT motor and spec tires. Run hobbywing xr10 pro 120. It runs straight and I use a Sanwa MT44. My issue is it feels like it is dragging its butt around the track. My spur is 90 and running 52 tooth. So what can I do to make it run faster. Is it a setting on the transmitter. Or do I need to change settings in the ESC? If it’s the ESC is there somewhere that breaks it down in layman’s terms that I can understand how and what it impacts.
amy help from the group would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-26-2022 | 08:33 PM
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Old 02-26-2022 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Timster1973
So I have been doing USGT at my local track for 2 seasons now. And have become comfortable with my car and driving ability, now how to go faster??

let me give you soMe details on my ride. First off it’s a X-ray T4 20’. Is on the alum flex chassis. It has the USGT motor and spec tires. Run hobbywing xr10 pro 120. It runs straight and I use a Sanwa MT44. My issue is it feels like it is dragging its butt around the track. My spur is 90 and running 52 tooth. So what can I do to make it run faster. Is it a setting on the transmitter. Or do I need to change settings in the ESC? If it’s the ESC is there somewhere that breaks it down in layman’s terms that I can understand how and what it impacts.
amy help from the group would be greatly appreciated.
Dragging means your car feels slower to other cars? It’s a spec motor on a blinky so the battery has a huge bearing on total power. That will be noticeable on larger tracks. If you are using a smaller battery you can’t necessarily use the same runout as the other guys you run with since the battery does less work. Try shortening the runout and concentrating on corner speed. If that fails buy or borrow a large battery and see if that is more to your liking. If you race inside most guys opt for sub 280 batteries to minimize rolling over.
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Old 02-26-2022 | 10:13 PM
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Dragging means your car feels slower to other cars? It’s a spec motor on a blinky so the battery has a huge bearing on total power. That will be noticeable on larger tracks. If you are using a smaller battery you can’t necessarily use the same runout as the other guys you run with since the battery does less work. Try shortening the runout and concentrating on corner speed. If that fails buy or borrow a large battery and see if that is more to your liking. If you race inside most guys opt for sub 280 batteries to minimize rolling over.

i use Gen Ace 6000 130c hard pak, so I don’t think it’s the battery. Or maybe try a shorty, but everything I use is almost standard for battery pak at the track. I have not seen anyone run shorty packs in USGT.

the track is small but not to technical there is not a lot of straights to get a lot of top speed, so I know that passing I. Turns is mainly where we gain ground. I’m just trying to get the lead out so to speak.
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Old 02-27-2022 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Timster1973
i use Gen Ace 6000 130c hard pak, so I don’t think it’s the battery. Or maybe try a shorty, but everything I use is almost standard for battery pak at the track. I have not seen anyone run shorty packs in USGT.

the track is small but not to technical there is not a lot of straights to get a lot of top speed, so I know that passing I. Turns is mainly where we gain ground. I’m just trying to get the lead out so to speak.
Most escs are extremely easy to see WOT. Goes without saying but there is a lot of trial and error to runout. I personally start low and go up until the car feels good on the straight. That being said I start 46-47/100. MTC2 is a 1.9 like your car.
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Old 02-27-2022 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Timster1973
So I have been doing USGT at my local track for 2 seasons now. And have become comfortable with my car and driving ability, now how to go faster??

let me give you soMe details on my ride. First off it’s a X-ray T4 20’. Is on the alum flex chassis. It has the USGT motor and spec tires. Run hobbywing xr10 pro 120. It runs straight and I use a Sanwa MT44. My issue is it feels like it is dragging its butt around the track. My spur is 90 and running 52 tooth. So what can I do to make it run faster. Is it a setting on the transmitter. Or do I need to change settings in the ESC? If it’s the ESC is there somewhere that breaks it down in layman’s terms that I can understand how and what it impacts.
amy help from the group would be greatly appreciated.
Tim, the motors and esc are pretty straightforward in this class, especially at HT-SC (which is where I assume you are running). Make sure your esc is calibrated correctly and set to blinky mode. The only tuning option for the esc I would recommend is drag brake, try 5-7%. From there, I would focus on gearing. For St. Charles, I think I was running a ~4.3-4.5 FDR. I believe I had 99/42T spur/pinion. For setup, I ran the box T4'21 carpet setup from XRAY, and there wasn't really anything more I needed from the car. There was a tenth or two more to find in the setup, but it was good enough for me. Sauce w/SXT black for five minutes, and then wipe completely clean w/a clean towel a few minutes before your race.

Have Matt DG or Mike K take a look at your car next time you're there. I'm sure they'd be happy to give you some advice. Not sure how long they keep the on-road layout down, but track time is the most important thing you can invest in. Get there early to practice if you can, and try to stop in for practice during the week, if available.
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Old 02-27-2022 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Timster1973
So I have been doing USGT at my local track for 2 seasons now. And have become comfortable with my car and driving ability, now how to go faster??

let me give you soMe details on my ride. First off it’s a X-ray T4 20’. Is on the alum flex chassis. It has the USGT motor and spec tires. Run hobbywing xr10 pro 120. It runs straight and I use a Sanwa MT44. My issue is it feels like it is dragging its butt around the track. My spur is 90 and running 52 tooth. So what can I do to make it run faster. Is it a setting on the transmitter. Or do I need to change settings in the ESC? If it’s the ESC is there somewhere that breaks it down in layman’s terms that I can understand how and what it impacts.
amy help from the group would be greatly appreciated.
I run on a small track and we run around 3.1 FDR with the USGT motor. I would bump up the pinion another tooth or two.
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Old 02-27-2022 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
I run on a small track and we run around 3.1 FDR with the USGT motor. I would bump up the pinion another tooth or two.
This is smaller than Oshkosh by a good bit
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Old 02-27-2022 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bentouttashape
Tim, the motors and esc are pretty straightforward in this class, especially at HT-SC (which is where I assume you are running). Make sure your esc is calibrated correctly and set to blinky mode. The only tuning option for the esc I would recommend is drag brake, try 5-7%. From there, I would focus on gearing. For St. Charles, I think I was running a ~4.3-4.5 FDR. I believe I had 99/42T spur/pinion. For setup, I ran the box T4'21 carpet setup from XRAY, and there wasn't really anything more I needed from the car. There was a tenth or two more to find in the setup, but it was good enough for me. Sauce w/SXT black for five minutes, and then wipe completely clean w/a clean towel a few minutes before your race.

Have Matt DG or Mike K take a look at your car next time you're there. I'm sure they'd be happy to give you some advice. Not sure how long they keep the on-road layout down, but track time is the most important thing you can invest in. Get there early to practice if you can, and try to stop in for practice during the week, if available.
thanks for the advice, I will look at changing the ESC to the suggested settings and redoing the spur/ pinion and see how it does.
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Old 02-27-2022 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
I run on a small track and we run around 3.1 FDR with the USGT motor. I would bump up the pinion another tooth or two.
The track we are talking about is SMALL:

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Old 02-27-2022 | 05:10 PM
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Ok, my mistake.
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