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Old 07-06-2019 | 09:51 AM
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I think a weight limit is in order, to ensure an equal racing condition to those that race the FWD class.

The upside to FWD in USGT is that one would hope that this would either increase participants eager to get there preexisting cars into the mix and have some fun! Even if they do not post the lap times, and have similar handling, it would make for some good racing ala' the 24hrs of Le Mans, when multiple classes are on the track at one time. I too am the mindset that they should run FWD bodies and not the current Open GT style bodies.

Be sweet to see some DTM , Open GT, and Fwd cars mixing it up!
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Old 07-06-2019 | 11:18 AM
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I'd bet 20 that the same (good? Great? National champ) driver with 4wd 1380g vs fwd 1000g the 4wd wins
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Old 07-06-2019 | 01:27 PM
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I concur with the Hefty one here, I don't think even a 1kg fwd stands a chance against a 4wd car at weight. A group at the last Champs thought they were onto something with a low weight fwd car for the canam usgt class and they quickly abandoned the idea because it was slow.
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Old 07-07-2019 | 11:51 AM
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Corner exit is huge in USGT, and the FWD cars just don’t have it. This is magnified with Canam motors.
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Old 07-07-2019 | 04:30 PM
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The reason there is no weight limit is that every time I have seen FWD run vs 4wd, the FWD gets destroyed. So the thought was maybe if there was an incentive like no weight limit someone might bring out the FWD cars.

There has been exactly ZERO interest until the recent ETS/Awesomatix dustup . There is no separate class, because outside of some Tamiya TCS races, no one races FWD. I'm also less than inclined to make rules for a class that it looks like several manufacturers want to go to war over and ruin before it starts. I don't think anyone would like my rules.

Also, don't expect any chassis layout rules from the USVTA/USGT. Play on, players.
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Old 07-07-2019 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by robk
The reason there is no weight limit is that every time I have seen FWD run vs 4wd, the FWD gets destroyed. So the thought was maybe if there was an incentive like no weight limit someone might bring out the FWD cars.

There has been exactly ZERO interest until the recent ETS/Awesomatix dustup . There is no separate class, because outside of some Tamiya TCS races, no one races FWD. I'm also less than inclined to make rules for a class that it looks like several manufacturers want to go to war over and ruin before it starts. I don't think anyone would like my rules.

Also, don't expect any chassis layout rules from the USVTA/USGT. Play on, players.
i ran the MTS FF in USGT in tight tracks it got destroyed in a open flowing track it held up pretty well but the 4wd was still a few tenths faster
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Old 07-07-2019 | 05:26 PM
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With the current trend, everyone is running Hyper Car bodies... which already is blurring the lines of “GT” class. Then you have the scale realism faction (which included yours truly) that already “cries murder most foul” at the relaxed / look alike bodies being permitted.

Now allow a FWD chassis with the Agatha body and you will make us all catatonic
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Old 07-07-2019 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Raman
With the current trend, everyone is running Hyper Car bodies... which already is blurring the lines of “GT” class. Then you have the scale realism faction (which included yours truly) that already “cries murder most foul” at the relaxed / look alike bodies being permitted.

Now allow a FWD chassis with the Agatha body and you will make us all catatonic
actually if you use the Agata it will actually be catastrophic l that body sucks lol is just a stretched out Prius
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Old 07-07-2019 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcos.J

actually if you use the Agata it will actually be catastrophic l that body sucks lol is just a stretched out Prius
ROFL. Well in that case it should be allowed
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Old 07-07-2019 | 06:18 PM
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ROFL. Well in that case it should be allowed
lightweight FF car wants to use it I say let them
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Old 07-07-2019 | 06:49 PM
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Just realised something.... the Hyper Car bodies won’t fit very well on the FF layout.. the layout is essentially same as the FF03/Ff04 shock tower and motor will not allow the front to drop down enough.

It would only work Awesomatix car with the MF layout
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Old 07-07-2019 | 08:00 PM
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You're supposed to use the FWd bodies on FWD. Not that anyone will ever stop crying about everything.
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Old 07-07-2019 | 09:15 PM
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USGT Agata in the field.
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Old 07-08-2019 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcos.J
i ran the MTS FF in USGT in tight tracks it got destroyed in a open flowing track it held up pretty well but the 4wd was still a few tenths faster
you must not of ever seen Mark kill everyone with his FWD car in usgt and VTA
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Old 07-08-2019 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by thisguy2849
you must not of ever seen Mark kill everyone with his FWD car in usgt and VTA
Nope
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