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Old 01-14-2018 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rydaddy
TKR5165 I think you have to buy the Inserts to get those shims.
Thanks for the part#, but was hoping to find some aluminum spacers

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Which thickness did you use of those to take up the slop?
0.5mm of slop on each side... I've got some Durango spacers that are 0.2mm thick but no good posting that part number because they're out of business, hopefully Tekno can fill the gaps (pun intended) for various shim spacing options
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Old 01-14-2018 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by billdelong


0.5mm of slop on each side... I've got some Durango spacers that are 0.2mm thick but no good posting that part number because they're out of business, hopefully Tekno can fill the gaps (pun intended) for various shim spacing options
Thanks! I will just order the Schumacher shim kit you used.
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Old 01-14-2018 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by billdelong
So I want to try Ryan Lutz's setup because he recently raced our current track layout and I figured it would be something worth trying, however he's only got his nitro setup posted:
http://lutzinator.com/wp-content/plu...2011-12-17.pdf

Do folks generally think this would be close enough to the electric version or would the nitro setup be too far off?


One thing I couldn't help but to notice was that he marked CVD's in his setup, is this simply because the nitro kit come with CVD's by default?

My kit comes with universals and I saw the following note posted on the OP:


My track is smooth so my question is whether it really makes any difference on a smooth track because the note only talks about bumpy conditions and doesn't really explain why one option is better for which condition.
Bill, you can try running CVD's front/rear to see what it feels like. I've used them out there before, but 99% I run a universal up front and CVD in the rear. This combo works well. The CVD in the front didn't feel as consistent to me.
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Old 01-14-2018 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by HK SBR
Bill, you can try running CVD's front/rear to see what it feels like. I've used them out there before, but 99% I run a universal up front and CVD in the rear. This combo works well. The CVD in the front didn't feel as consistent to me.
Much appreciated for the feedback, I'll start with the universals because that's what the kit comes with, but I'm failing to understand what advantage the CVD will offer over universals on a smooth track for the rear? Does it add more traction, etc?
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Old 01-14-2018 | 12:05 PM
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Yes, it will add traction. It'll add stability in the rear with CVD's. In the front, it's not as forgiving with them(based on my experience).
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Old 01-14-2018 | 12:20 PM
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Okay that helps, and makes sense... thanks for the explanation. I think I read that the .4 arms are different so I assume the shafts are different as well, meaning I can't simply swap out the CVD's from my .3 buggy to try, I'll need to buy the .4 CVD's right?
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Old 01-14-2018 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by billdelong
Okay that helps, and makes sense... thanks for the explanation. I think I read that the .4 arms are different so I assume the shafts are different as well, meaning I can't simply swap out the CVD's from my .3 buggy to try, I'll need to buy the .4 CVD's right?
Correct, they are .4 specific. Back to my previous, I will add that the CVD's DO work up front on a "smooth" track. But found as soon as the track developed the slightest bit of rough stuff is when the consistency started falling off. I'd run them when the track is fresh after a rebuild. The rears, I always run them.

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Old 01-14-2018 | 12:50 PM
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Thanks John, I assume this is the same John I raced with last night with our EB410's on the Jr track

I'll go ahead and pick up some CVD's for both the front and rear then, and plan to run the universals when the time comes. Really enjoying this build so far, hopefully this cold weather passes through soon so I can paint some bodies!
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Old 01-14-2018 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by billdelong
Thanks John, I assume this is the same John I raced with last night with our EB410's on the Jr track

I'll go ahead and pick up some CVD's for both the front and rear then, and plan to run the universals when the time comes. Really enjoying this build so far, hopefully this cold weather passes through soon so I can paint some bodies!
Cool deal. And yes, it is I.
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Old 01-14-2018 | 06:54 PM
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Okay, I think I'm going blind... but for the life of me I can't seem to find anywhere on the setup sheet which lists the front wheelbase adjustment, I can clearly see the rear wheelbase settings toward the bottom center of the setup sheet but I got nothing for the front. With the previous .3 release, this was a fixed setting but on page 12 of the instructions it shows a TKR5165 (2mm spacer) placed toward the front which shortens the wheelbase for a more aggressive setup (I assume) per the box stock setup?

Does anyone know what the pros are doing with this tuning option for a smooth medium grip track? Curious if anyone is splitting this spacer up with 1mm on each side of the spindle, etc?

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Old 01-14-2018 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by billdelong
Okay, I think I'm going blind... but for the life of me I can't seem to find anywhere on the setup sheet which lists the front wheelbase adjustment, I can clearly see the rear wheelbase settings toward the bottom center of the setup sheet but I got nothing for the front. With the previous .3 release, this was a fixed setting but on page 12 of the instructions it shows a TKR5165 (2mm spacer) placed toward the front which shortens the wheelbase for a more aggressive setup (I assume) per the box stock setup?

Does anyone know what the pros are doing with this tuning option for a smooth medium grip track? Curious if anyone is splitting this spacer up with 1mm on each side of the spindle, etc?

This is not a wheelbase adjustment, at least it was not designed as one. The .3 had trailing spindles, the .4 does not, but we made provisions to allow for trailing spindles if we ever decided to come out with any. If there were trailing spindles you would run the spacer in the rear which would keep the wheelbase and axle angle the same.
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Old 01-14-2018 | 09:31 PM
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Thanks for the explanation Matthew, much appreciated!
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Old 01-16-2018 | 01:09 AM
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For rear wheelbase, i've maked specific aluminium shims. 1.5mm and 4.5mm with the same diameters of originals parts. Not much wear if there is no burr. But for sure, plastic is the best choice for durability.

For front wheelbase, be careful about the gap between driveshaft and spring's damper...It's very close if the carrier is on the front. So, i don't think it's a good idea to change it, but.....

For driveshaft, the general rule is: rough tracks = UNI, smooth track= CVD
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Old 01-16-2018 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by billdelong

For those who have the ability to update the tuning guide, I think it would be helpful to include this tuning option with more clarification on the next release of the document:
That guide was never actually released, it had some things right, and some things needed to be updated.

Seems like they have switched to adding vehicle specific advice in the instruction manuals instead.
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Old 02-10-2018 | 02:06 PM
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anyone running vrp gamechangers? Feedback??
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