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Old 08-02-2017 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LJH
Tamiya Carrera RSR body and for that I am using a staggered wheel set up with the USGT/Ride tires, the second body is the Suzuki SX4 WRC Rally body and on that I am running a square wheel set up with the Ride 26MM Radials.
Tire difference could be the other thing causing handling variation, especially on a loose surface.
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Old 08-02-2017 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by alecladanga
hope it's okay if i could ask for further details on the P-Zero specifically on handling characteristics. And if possible, compare the handling characteristics of it to the NSX 2007 of Tamiya?

Not running USGT but some races in Asia for 17.5T blinky have certain body rules (race bodies such as PF, bittydesign, montech aren't allowed) that should be in 1:10 scale and I'm looking for an equal or better alternative to the NSX.

thanks in advance.
I have tried all NSX body's. I like them all. I am skeptical about any body till I try it. The P-Zero reminded me of the NSX out on my first lap. Easy to drive and held to the track well. But i kept getting faster with it. I was ahead of second place by 6 seconds. Plenty of steering. If you use the supplied wing I would suggest cutting it on lower line. I used the HPI plastic split wing on mine.
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Old 08-04-2017 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nubs
Yes, bodies play a huge role in handling. But you can generally offset those with changes in setup. When do you notice that your back end is getting loose? Slowing down for turns? Speeding up in corners?
Thanks all for the input.

Last night I did a little experiment. for the first pack I ran the Porsche body. It is very tail happy on high speed "trail braking", very typical of a full scale rear engine Porsche.

Still with the Porsche body I installed the wheel/tire combo from the SX4 body. Not quite as sensitive to but still exhibited a lot of over steer off throttle.

I then put the SX4 body on it and the car is substantially better, turn in may not be quite as good but it is a major improvement in high speed stability.

Lastly I ran the car with no body and it is an understeering pig, I mean even doing a Swedish flick I could barely get the rear end to break free.

That was a pretty neet experiment. I think I now have to try a more race inspired body to see what she will do.


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Old 08-04-2017 | 10:40 AM
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just keep in mind that the body is a fine tune option for setup. With a good suspension setup, any body can be made to work. So only change bodies once your sure the car is setup well, then fine tune with bodies to get that last little bit.
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Old 08-04-2017 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dman18t
just keep in mind that the body is a fine tune option for setup. With a good suspension setup, any body can be made to work. So only change bodies once your sure the car is setup well, then fine tune with bodies to get that last little bit.
Guys I've been running with CTS in the USGT division and I run a Protoform Caddy. It's good and neutral balance. Have any of you been working with the new Exotek body offered for USGT. What are your thoughts?
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Old 08-04-2017 | 11:00 AM
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Guys I've been running with CTS in the USGT division and I run a Protoform Caddy. It's good and neutral balance. Have any of you been working with the new Exotek body offered for USGT. What are your thoughts?
I picked one up but have yet to paint it. I know a few others a HT Fresno bought them too. It'll be interesting to see how they handle on our track this weekend. Lee ran one a couple weeks ago at the CTS race at Ripon. He said he really liked it, his "new go to body" as he put it.
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Old 08-04-2017 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dman18t
just keep in mind that the body is a fine tune option for setup. With a good suspension setup, any body can be made to work. So only change bodies once your sure the car is setup well, then fine tune with bodies to get that last little bit.
Copy that. With that said I tried chasing down the high speed off throttle oversteer stability issue. Knowing what I know from full scale I first went softer in the rear and that helped until I took spacers out off the springs (no/very little spring pre-load). That made it worse, I am thinking there is to much droop in the rear? I may take the rear shock apart and put some spacers on the shock shafts to reduce the droop and see if that helps at all.

Keep in mind this is a lowly TT02 which does not incorporate droop screws.

Thanks.

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Old 08-04-2017 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LJH
Copy that. With that said I tried chasing down the high speed off throttle oversteer stability issue. Knowing what I know from full scale I first went softer in the rear and that helped until I took spacers out off the springs (no/very little spring pre-load). That made it worse, I am thinking there is to much droop in the rear? I may take the rear shock apart and put some spacers on the shock shafts to reduce the droop and see if that helps at all.

Keep in mind this is a lowly TT02 which does not incorporate droop screws.

Thanks.

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Someone is selling a cheap ($280) TRF419x in the sales section. May want to upgrade.
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Old 08-04-2017 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh-n-ya
I have tried all NSX body's. I like them all. I am skeptical about any body till I try it. The P-Zero reminded me of the NSX out on my first lap. Easy to drive and held to the track well. But i kept getting faster with it. I was ahead of second place by 6 seconds. Plenty of steering. If you use the supplied wing I would suggest cutting it on lower line. I used the HPI plastic split wing on mine.
hahaha, 6sec lead was because the 2nd place guy was battling with 3rd place guy for a while. Plus the 2nd place guy's car wasn't dialed in. Will try to fine tune the car this Sunday (I know you are not going), and race you again in two weeks.
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Old 08-04-2017 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rcguyfpr
hahaha, 6sec lead was because the 2nd place guy was battling with 3rd place guy for a while. Plus the 2nd place guy's car wasn't dialed in. Will try to fine tune the car this Sunday (I know you are not going), and race you again in two weeks.
6 seconds is 6 seconds no matter how you look at it. If you were fast enough you could of kept up. Lol
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Old 08-04-2017 | 06:06 PM
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I picked up one of those new Exotek bodies now too. They look so nice. We will color it up and see what it does on-track. It sure looks all the business. Hope it performs as well as it looks.
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Old 08-05-2017 | 01:43 PM
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Trying out my new Flickr photo account to see if pics will post. Here's my new Protoform C7-R:


protoform C7-R body 1 by Mark Osier, on Flickr
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Old 08-05-2017 | 02:54 PM
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Yes, Photobucket no longer works, so I'll copy Otto and see if this works.
Got it working
IMG_2641 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/153472417@N03/]
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Old 08-05-2017 | 03:36 PM
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Glenn, all I did was open an account on Flickr and downloaded some pics, put them in an album and tinkered around until I found the links to post pics online, it took this old man longer than usual to find everything but it is now my go-to site for hosting and sharing.

I'll try to explain it better at the track later tonight.
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Old 08-05-2017 | 03:38 PM
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Glenn, all I did was open an account on Flickr and downloaded some pics, put them in an album and tinkered around until I found the links to post pics online, it took this old man longer than usual to find everything but it is now my go-to site for hosting and sharing.

I'll try to explain it better at the track later tonight.
Out of town this weekend. I've been playing with it to no avail. Not sure to use the "embed", "share", or "BB." Part of the problem is I'm on my IPad and am having difficultly selecting the entire link.

Figured it out, use the "BBcode" on Flickr and just copy it at the end of the message, do not use the video insert tool on this site.

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