and the Corvette Prototype isn't based off a production car???????????? this is out of hand again.

I have been told that this is just normal wear for a race car. To get a car to handle great you have to be willing to let your tires wear unevenly and maybe faster.

I have also been told that USGT ties handle best when there is a bit of a ring, then once the ring becomes too pronounced the performance drops off.

You can sand your tires. Just as the ring begins to be too much you can sand the less worn side down slightly to even or level the contact surface a bit.

You have to sand very slowly at a slow speed. If you go too fast the tire heats up and leaves a melted ring, not good

And yet the Mazda Furai gets a pass. Even though the only one ever built was destroyed in a fire.

omg...really guys...we finally have an American Bad Azz car to run in USGT, in the PF Vette, and we have complaints?...wth...is it me or have we as racers truly lost it. I have no idea what racers want anymore...I for one is gratefull that any company would take a class like GT or even VTA and make a product for the class. And when we talking about $$$$$$, lets not kid ourselves, the company takes a lot of risk, for a body they "hope" will sale....

Come on guys lets be happy that we have a couple of new shells for our USGT class and not complain about this and that?...cause if you dont like them, plenty more to choose from....

Get it together people

Darkside-
I don't think the complaint is about new bodies. It's just that when two bodies are almost identical in shape and both represent actual cars that exist, and one is legal and one is not, it doesn't make sense. The new Exotek body looks great and should be in the USGT class, but for the same reason, so should the Riley and Corvette Daytona bodies.

I did love the HPI Pagoni Zonda, and ran it for quite a while, but it was a tank. I hope the Exotek is at least a little lighter!

When one of you guys gets one, please post the weight.

You make a good point. The Mcallister should be legal also.

Let's review for a moment. We are discussing the USGT class right? So what's in that title? We all know what US stands for because most of you guys live in that great country. However, there seems to be a lack of understanding as to what "GT" stands for. It means "grand touring", as in traveling on roads, as in cars that were originally designed to travel on the paved roads of the world.

IMSA and organizations like that decided to make a class for these type of cars to race against one another. Hence....the GT class came into being a very long time ago. These GT racecars are based on something that was originally designed to be licensed and driven on the road and equipped with all the creature comforts like A/C and stereos. Yes, they are modified severly to make them competitive as "race cars" however there's no denying the fact that the original DNA spells: Street Car

I've never seen a Daytona Prototype Riley or Corvette or Cadillac DPi that was built for street usage. Have you? Yes, there is the odd excentric billionaire out there that has made a Porsche 962 street legal with turn signals etc. But that's not the norm. It's just the odd guy who has too much money and also lives in a castle somehwere in the Alps.

Yes, the Pagani has similarities to the purpose built prototype cars, but its a vastly different creation.

This is not that hard. It's debated way too much in my opinion. Get over it. LeMans Prototypes, Daytona Prototypes as well as the new for 2017 DPi cars are million dollar pure bred race cars, and that's not what the USGT class is all about.

Dale - Protoform

To add to that.. there are is no shortage of bodies for this class.. Tamiya by themselves have a large enough of a selection to supply the whole class.

The original rules were for bodies of real GT cars, not look alike.

Presently rules are different and so be it. We accept that.

But they need to be consistent and no preferential treatment given to a certain company.

Mike - you continue to produce outstanding products. Well done!

Hi Dale-
That's a nice description for your point of view. But here is the actual rules for USGT....

Any 190mm or 200mm body.
Body can be anybody that is NOT or HAS BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list.
FWD encouraged to use FWD bodies.
Can AM or IMSA style bodies, similar to 1/12 or 1/8 bodies using an integrated wing are illegal.
EX: Porsche 962 style bodies or LeMans P1. Japanese GT OK German DTM OK
NO Trucks vans minivans school buses garbage trucks, ultility vehicles, moon landers,
zambonis,golf carts, quads, etc allowed.
No fantasy or unproduced concept vehicles. If it’s not a car it’s not legal.
Track director or race promoter has the final say on legality of discontinued unlisted bodies.[/B]

I don't see any of your definition anywhere in there. The original concept was set out to have Sports Car type bodies that resembled actual existing cars that fit on standard 4WD Touring Cars. That's why the Riley and Corvette Daytona bodies were originally legal. It's only when politics get in the way that things change.

I don't think I have seen too many PFM-10s on the road either. I don't want to argue any more either. I think the shapes of the bodies speak for themselves and there is obviously a double standard with the USGT body list. And most of the racers can see that.

Gary McAllister

RCGT came into being a long time ago by a group or RC enthusiast, who got together to create a class where the rules required the running of scale licensed bodies of real GT cars and spec tire by HPI.

Then the spec tire became hard to come by and a new spec tire was selected and class relabelled as USGT. Over time the rules became relaxed for bodies and allowed "look alike bodies" from to be run.

I dont recall seeing to many MX-Stangs on the road either....

I will add that Gary's MX Stang is a really good example of a great working, good looking, and fits the class description to a "T" body.

I always thought this Opel Astra V8 DTM looking body Dale made was underrated. It would make a great GT body today. I painted this one with a McLaren F1 paint scheme back in 2010.