Novarossi engines thread
#5251
T should be the heat treat on the material. 7050 is stronger, but I don't know if it's a viable option to use in nitro. 7075, although rare, is much more common than 7050.
Last edited by mustangkillaz; 05-28-2017 at 03:07 PM.
#5252
You want it strong and also with some flex. The R7 rods are a kind of 7075 which is an easy to get material, it can also been seen how it oxidises by the nitro. The best option seems to be 7068 but is so far I know not that easy to get.
#5254
The Novarossi Rods are extremely strong and last a good while. Personally I tend to change the rod after the first 2 gallons and then every 4-5 gallons on a 21 engine and after the first gallon and then every 2-3 gallons on a 12. However I have had engines run over 6 gallons perfectly fine on a rod without any issues.
#5255
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I need some help on understanding how to choosing the right plug, instead of being told what plug to use.
For e.g, my engine is a Keep on 9 XLS, temperature is around 25 to 35 degree celcius. 25% nitro. How should I choose?
1. Hotter plugs for colder days or the other way around?
2. Hotter plugs burn oil more efficiently than cold plugs? If my engine is running rich, will it become relatively leaner i I switch to a hotter plug? And what will be the consequences?
3. For this engine, I was told to use the C8TGC and it's running fine. What will happen if I switch to C7TGH?
Thank you for your time.
Ted
For e.g, my engine is a Keep on 9 XLS, temperature is around 25 to 35 degree celcius. 25% nitro. How should I choose?
1. Hotter plugs for colder days or the other way around?
2. Hotter plugs burn oil more efficiently than cold plugs? If my engine is running rich, will it become relatively leaner i I switch to a hotter plug? And what will be the consequences?
3. For this engine, I was told to use the C8TGC and it's running fine. What will happen if I switch to C7TGH?
Thank you for your time.
Ted
#5256
I need some help on understanding how to choosing the right plug, instead of being told what plug to use.
For e.g, my engine is a Keep on 9 XLS, temperature is around 25 to 35 degree celcius. 25% nitro. How should I choose?
1. Hotter plugs for colder days or the other way around?
2. Hotter plugs burn oil more efficiently than cold plugs? If my engine is running rich, will it become relatively leaner i I switch to a hotter plug? And what will be the consequences?
3. For this engine, I was told to use the C8TGC and it's running fine. What will happen if I switch to C7TGH?
Thank you for your time.
Ted
For e.g, my engine is a Keep on 9 XLS, temperature is around 25 to 35 degree celcius. 25% nitro. How should I choose?
1. Hotter plugs for colder days or the other way around?
2. Hotter plugs burn oil more efficiently than cold plugs? If my engine is running rich, will it become relatively leaner i I switch to a hotter plug? And what will be the consequences?
3. For this engine, I was told to use the C8TGC and it's running fine. What will happen if I switch to C7TGH?
Thank you for your time.
Ted
On.12 size engines we run C6TGFB almost exclusively unless it's really hot outside or you are running 25% fuel then we consider going to a C7TGFB.
In a nutshell the higher the number the colder the plug. Higher the nitro content the colder the plug. The hotter the ambient temperature the colder the plug. The opposite in all cases the hotter the plug.
My advise is stick to the 8 and concentrate on tuning the engine correctly and you'll be fine.
By the way the 'C' plugs are for offroad engines and shouldn't be used onroad. The engine will run but it isn't ideal. You should be running either the old C8TGH or the new (and much better/stronger) C8TGFB.
http://www.novarossi.it/2012/index.p...s/on-road.html
http://www.novarossi.it/2012/index.p.../off-road.html
#5258
In a very nicely broken in engine, my experience let's me believe 4-7 gallons depending on actual usage. Up to 10 gallons has been seen but is rare and more common in lower rpm/hp engines.
In a heavily raced engine and/or rough break-in, without heating the head to a proper temp, I'd say from immediately after break-in, or 1-4 gallons is the spread. Immediately for break ins with excessive starter running and getting caught in pinch often without actually starting.
Rule of thumb is always replace it if over revved, overheated, and abused excessively out of normal use. This is a great insurance policy. Not saying you will have trouble immediately, but a stretched out/brittle rod wil snap much sooner.
#5263
Good question, I am not the one to search the limits and like to replace the rod after a 5~7 liter use. So far I have no issues with the R4 rod replacing it at the same time as I do with the R7
Here you can see the differences:
R/C Tech Forums - View Single Post - Novarossi Ielasi Tuned Engines - Official Thread
And yes, lightweigh should mean more performance but placing a R7 rod I did not notice a thing.
Here you can see the differences:
R/C Tech Forums - View Single Post - Novarossi Ielasi Tuned Engines - Official Thread
And yes, lightweigh should mean more performance but placing a R7 rod I did not notice a thing.
#5264
This is funny. By accident I came accross some old version R7 rods new in bag, the R7-11. On top of the bag a R4 rod, looks the same.
The only difference is te groove on the side of the pinholes.
So it seems the R4 is based on an older model R7.
The only difference is te groove on the side of the pinholes.
So it seems the R4 is based on an older model R7.



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