The AE FActory Team B44.2 Thread
#7036
he is looking to run 13.5 4wd at the cactus classic. So I am fairly certain his plan is not to go slow. It is also a non boosted class. So he will need to run 13.5 with motor timing only. Gino. I would start where I said, then adjust for temps. I am sure you have all of the pinions and spurs to try stuff out. 13.5 4wd is just not super popular. But i plan to run 13.5 in my wheeler this weekend and I plan to start where I told you.
#7038
You can't compare a 2wd ratio with a 4wd ratio, 4WD has much more resistance
#7039
Hello guys, just got the Avid Triad Slipper kit and going to install them on my car. Also got the Avid spacer for the kit. Question, where do i place the Avid spacer on the Triad kit? Do you guys have pics on where do i place them? Thanks in advance. Cheers...
#7040
As far as pinions...a 23/24 with 75 spur will be VERY slow with a 13.5. That's what I run on my 8.5 lolol. maybe with a TON of boost a 24/75 combo might work...but for sure not in blinky.
This is what AE recomends for the B4.2 (gearing will be VERY close for the b44, even with "resistance" taken into account, tire size is same, spur is same, pinion is same, diff's are same, etc.)
17.5 blinky = 32/75
17.5 w/boost = 23/78
13.5 blinky = 30/75
13.5 w/boost = 22/81
8.5 = 22/81
So yea.....
#7041
oh you most definitely can compare the two! The math used to figure out either car's FDR is the same...neither the 2wd or 4wd FDR uses resistance as a consideration...so yes you can compare the two. There are sooooo many variables for "resistance" how can you even begin to quantify such an animal??
As far as pinions...a 23/24 with 75 spur will be VERY slow with a 13.5. That's what I run on my 8.5 lolol. maybe with a TON of boost a 24/75 combo might work...but for sure not in blinky.
This is what AE recomends for the B4.2 (gearing will be VERY close for the b44, even with "resistance" taken into account, tire size is same, spur is same, pinion is same, diff's are same, etc.)
17.5 blinky = 32/75
17.5 w/boost = 23/78
13.5 blinky = 30/75
13.5 w/boost = 22/81
8.5 = 22/81
So yea.....
As far as pinions...a 23/24 with 75 spur will be VERY slow with a 13.5. That's what I run on my 8.5 lolol. maybe with a TON of boost a 24/75 combo might work...but for sure not in blinky.
This is what AE recomends for the B4.2 (gearing will be VERY close for the b44, even with "resistance" taken into account, tire size is same, spur is same, pinion is same, diff's are same, etc.)
17.5 blinky = 32/75
17.5 w/boost = 23/78
13.5 blinky = 30/75
13.5 w/boost = 22/81
8.5 = 22/81
So yea.....
Makes sense, I don't think resistance would play a large factor, but one thing to consider with the B44 versus the B4 is that very little air flow will reach the motor in the B44. So heat will become a factor. The B4 motor is exposed so it can cool much easier than under a closed body. So you may have to sacrifice a couple teeth to keep the temps down. That being said I've run a boosted 7.5 with a 22/75 in my B44 when it was cool outdoors. So it really depends on the situation. Racing indoor now I can't come anywhere close to that ratio, nor do I need to.
#7042
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oh you most definitely can compare the two! The math used to figure out either car's FDR is the same...neither the 2wd or 4wd FDR uses resistance as a consideration...so yes you can compare the two. There are sooooo many variables for "resistance" how can you even begin to quantify such an animal??
As far as pinions...a 23/24 with 75 spur will be VERY slow with a 13.5. That's what I run on my 8.5 lolol. maybe with a TON of boost a 24/75 combo might work...but for sure not in blinky.
This is what AE recomends for the B4.2 (gearing will be VERY close for the b44, even with "resistance" taken into account, tire size is same, spur is same, pinion is same, diff's are same, etc.)
17.5 blinky = 32/75
17.5 w/boost = 23/78
13.5 blinky = 30/75
13.5 w/boost = 22/81
8.5 = 22/81
So yea.....
As far as pinions...a 23/24 with 75 spur will be VERY slow with a 13.5. That's what I run on my 8.5 lolol. maybe with a TON of boost a 24/75 combo might work...but for sure not in blinky.
This is what AE recomends for the B4.2 (gearing will be VERY close for the b44, even with "resistance" taken into account, tire size is same, spur is same, pinion is same, diff's are same, etc.)
17.5 blinky = 32/75
17.5 w/boost = 23/78
13.5 blinky = 30/75
13.5 w/boost = 22/81
8.5 = 22/81
So yea.....
#7044
Just FYI with a 75t spur, the minimum pinion is 22 teeth. But it looks like you'll be surpassing that. Haha
#7045
7.5t, i run on indoorcircuits 20/81 with 10-20 degr turbo, no boost.
#7046
huh> we said 30/75 for "13.5", not 7.5. He is looking to run a wheeler in the 13.5 super stock class at the Cactus Classic. Its a real class, lol. He cant boost or use a lower turn motor.
#7047
Super Stock 13.5 4wd Buggy is getting to be a normal class around here it seems (for indoor clay tracks) same with SS Truck and SS Short Course. I really like 13.5's I feel like those and 10.5's are the best all around motors.
Would be cool if there was more motor regulated classes IMO.
Stock = 17.5 blinky
Super Stock = 13.5 blinky
Mod = 10.5 blinky
Open/Pro = Anything
#7048
lol, way too many classes, lol. Anyway, I drive the motor I can handle. On my currently layout, I am not liking the 8.5. I can only use the speed on the straight. And the jumps are close together and a wheeler with a 8.5 is just harder for me to get right. We also have a tabletop jump with a crap ton of lift and it is way to easy to over power the jump and land in the fluff. Add to that my tires are getting destroyed. Tires are only lasting me 1-2 race days. And the guy that won the wheeler class last weekend ran a 13.5 boosted in a xxx-4 chassis. So its not like an 8.5 is a huge advantage.
#7049
#7050
Ok folks , this weekend I rand A big race, 5 qualis and 4 heats. Test the Rpm arms and the 2mm shorter rear arm mod. Man the car felt good. Fast, stabel and on low speed loose anough in the rear, to turn very Quick. Run on medium grip Astro, wooden jumps and Stones Run 3 days without one little problem. Run one of my best races ever so for. My mate is A-main driver and swaped last heat his xb4 with my b44.2 and afther one round to test he go as Fast with my b44.2 as his best. Finished 3e in that round with his best time of the Day. Hé comes of the rosarium, and says, man I never drive A car so easy and good like You're b44.2.
I love my b44.2, I'm proud of him. It was a hell of a test.
Gtz
I love my b44.2, I'm proud of him. It was a hell of a test.
Gtz




well, a 29/81 does not fit....so yeah....I need a smaller spur. but until I pick one up, I just boosted it up for now. so I am 81/25 boosted.
