4LikesTeam Associated B4.2 Thread
09-11-2013 | 07:30 PM
#9331
Ok, for everyone wondering about droop, shock shaft length, and limitiers, here are my findings.
.030" limiters = .76mm
Front:
-bottom e-clip to eyelet threads = 32mm
-exposed shock shaft length with no limiters to eyelet threads = 22.25mm
-exposed shock shaft length with no limiters with shock eyelet screwed all the way in hand tight = 21.25mm
Rear:
-bottom e-clip to eyelet threads = 38.5mm
-exposed shock shaft length with no limiters to eyelet threads = 29mm
-exposed shock shaft length with no limiters with shock eyelet screwed all the way in hand tight = 27.75mm
On the eyelets I turned them pretty hard. They're definitely as far as they will go.
These measurements were on brand new in package big bore shocks.
These are my findings, take them with a grain of salt, miles my vary, etc.
.030" limiters = .76mm
Front:
-bottom e-clip to eyelet threads = 32mm
-exposed shock shaft length with no limiters to eyelet threads = 22.25mm
-exposed shock shaft length with no limiters with shock eyelet screwed all the way in hand tight = 21.25mm
Rear:
-bottom e-clip to eyelet threads = 38.5mm
-exposed shock shaft length with no limiters to eyelet threads = 29mm
-exposed shock shaft length with no limiters with shock eyelet screwed all the way in hand tight = 27.75mm
On the eyelets I turned them pretty hard. They're definitely as far as they will go.
These measurements were on brand new in package big bore shocks.
These are my findings, take them with a grain of salt, miles my vary, etc.
09-11-2013 | 07:34 PM
#9332
I usually do the "wiggle test" to see if the shocks are pivoting on the shock eyelet ball.
Bit of useful or useless info for ya
09-11-2013 | 07:50 PM
#9333
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I'm not sure if anyone on here has mentioned these, 9452K311 - Buna-n O-ring from McMaster Carr. They are basically the same as the factory O-rings for the bleeder screw as far as the dimensions, but they are black and definitely hold up better. They don't "balloon" out as easily when you are tightening the bleeder screw and they seem to last a lot longer.
I have run 4 different cars with and without O-rings and I have never had a leak. I prefer to run O-rings because I just want to be on the safe side I guess. But also because part of me thinks that over time the bleeder screw may start to wear and that could potentially create a situation for shock fluid to leak out if there isn't something else there to help the seal. This of course is just a thought. Like I said, I have run big bores without the O-rings and they were fine. But they were also pretty new.
Here is the McMaster Carr O-ring part# again 9452K311 - Buna-n O-ring.
I have run 4 different cars with and without O-rings and I have never had a leak. I prefer to run O-rings because I just want to be on the safe side I guess. But also because part of me thinks that over time the bleeder screw may start to wear and that could potentially create a situation for shock fluid to leak out if there isn't something else there to help the seal. This of course is just a thought. Like I said, I have run big bores without the O-rings and they were fine. But they were also pretty new.
Here is the McMaster Carr O-ring part# again 9452K311 - Buna-n O-ring.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/3470/=ogwhcj
09-11-2013 | 07:59 PM
#9334
Those look a little excessive. Those type of o-rings are used a lot in automotive applications, and their hardness is probably going to be too much for RC situations.
I love the Reflex Racing o-rings. Super smooth and seal really well.
$3 for 8 o-rings
http://www.reflexracing.net/RSD-3mm-...cs_p_1208.html
I love the Reflex Racing o-rings. Super smooth and seal really well.
$3 for 8 o-rings
http://www.reflexracing.net/RSD-3mm-...cs_p_1208.html
09-11-2013 | 08:01 PM
#9336
09-11-2013 | 08:23 PM
#9338
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Those look a little excessive. Those type of o-rings are used a lot in automotive applications, and their hardness is probably going to be too much for RC situations.
I love the Reflex Racing o-rings. Super smooth and seal really well.
$3 for 8 o-rings
http://www.reflexracing.net/RSD-3mm-...cs_p_1208.html
I love the Reflex Racing o-rings. Super smooth and seal really well.
$3 for 8 o-rings
http://www.reflexracing.net/RSD-3mm-...cs_p_1208.html
How soft are the reflex orings vs AE ones?
09-11-2013 | 11:21 PM
#9339
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From: TRCR Modified Driver
Shock Piston Marathon
1st learned best not to mix shaped pistons with flat .
use one or the other keeping the cars shock performance balance & equal...
Started with the standard 2 x 1.6 flat , 35 w front , 30 w rear
They feel very reactive & responsive , car rolls quicker & faster.
Then our traction came up , the 1.6 became too planted and the car rolled hard in the turns..
solution
switched to 1.7 x 2 flat , 40w front , 37.5w rear
1.7 feel very stable , easier to drive , more forgiving..
The heavier oil slow down the roll , pistons add a bit more grip..
Works so good I'm hating
changing , but Lol gona do just that ..
Everyone around here even agrees the flat 1.7 pistons are a favorite of their's .
Now trying as my Ae Team mates are doing & suggesting ....
Front
1.4 x 3 shaped , 35w
Rear
1.6 x 2 shaped 32.5w
Will see how they really perform on Fridays club race
1st learned best not to mix shaped pistons with flat .
use one or the other keeping the cars shock performance balance & equal...
Started with the standard 2 x 1.6 flat , 35 w front , 30 w rear
They feel very reactive & responsive , car rolls quicker & faster.
Then our traction came up , the 1.6 became too planted and the car rolled hard in the turns..
solution
switched to 1.7 x 2 flat , 40w front , 37.5w rear
1.7 feel very stable , easier to drive , more forgiving..
The heavier oil slow down the roll , pistons add a bit more grip..
Works so good I'm hating
changing , but Lol gona do just that ..
Everyone around here even agrees the flat 1.7 pistons are a favorite of their's .
Now trying as my Ae Team mates are doing & suggesting ....
Front
1.4 x 3 shaped , 35w
Rear
1.6 x 2 shaped 32.5w
Will see how they really perform on Fridays club race
Last edited by Wild Cherry; 09-11-2013 at 11:35 PM.
09-12-2013 | 04:52 AM
#9345
I wonder if you could make the JConcepts one work on the front: http://www.jconcepts.net/store/index...roducts_id=696
Maybe use the rear bars on the front mount to clear the shocks? Not seen this before, just a thought.
Maybe use the rear bars on the front mount to clear the shocks? Not seen this before, just a thought.