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Old 03-05-2013 | 03:00 PM
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What about the catus classic, the truck was rediculously fast there. It wasn't loose soil but man can those guys drive. If you haven't watched it then your missing out.
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Old 03-05-2013 | 03:04 PM
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I have racex srs. They also put down grape soda and that track will blue groove. It is high bite
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Old 03-05-2013 | 04:32 PM
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I have posted that I have had this truck for over a year now way before the center brace before the vts, don't say you tried the m2c block and your just giving up ok man . I have also read every page on this thread and seen the progression of this truck over the year and its all for the better. So don't say I didn't even try, I even machined 2 brass weights that fit under the servo that added 39 grams to each side bought 4 scales for this truck and got it perfectly balanced cross weight and im pretty close to 50-50 front and back. I have tried tons of spring and dampening combos on this truck not just what people on here say to do.

I love to race and im sure like everybody that does they race to win right so to only fight for a top 10 finish out of 20 trucks and probably 10 of them drive like idiots its kind of a slap in the face, im not saying im the best driver in the world or even the best and my track but I know my skills are in the top 4 and any day I can win if I race clean and them not so much.

There comes a time when your just fighting the machine when it doesn't fit the style or the limits that you want it to do, could just be me I don't know, but dont say I haven't tried to make this truck work for me.
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Old 03-05-2013 | 04:46 PM
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Jstall, funny how some base there understanding with how the Sc 10 4x4 handles outdoors by what they read on the internet then use as proof its true..

I do know here in the Nw the truck has won or Tq more then a few respectable outdoor events just last summer.

Just say-n

Real results are always better then a opinion on the internet.
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Old 03-05-2013 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtbikekid33
I have posted that I have had this truck for over a year now way before the center brace before the vts, don't say you tried the m2c block and your just giving up ok man . I have also read every page on this thread and seen the progression of this truck over the year and its all for the better. So don't say I didn't even try, I even machined 2 brass weights that fit under the servo that added 39 grams to each side bought 4 scales for this truck and got it perfectly balanced cross weight and im pretty close to 50-50 front and back. I have tried tons of spring and dampening combos on this truck not just what people on here say to do.

I love to race and im sure like everybody that does they race to win right so to only fight for a top 10 finish out of 20 trucks and probably 10 of them drive like idiots its kind of a slap in the face, im not saying im the best driver in the world or even the best and my track but I know my skills are in the top 4 and any day I can win if I race clean and them not so much.

There comes a time when your just fighting the machine when it doesn't fit the style or the limits that you want it to do, could just be me I don't know, but dont say I haven't tried to make this truck work for me.
Very well said.
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Old 03-05-2013 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtbikekid33
All I'm trying to say is yes the truck is fine on carpet yes the truck is fine on a tight indoor track with insane grip but in my case I have a huge blown outdoor track that I go to and the truck is not right at all to be fast like the other heavy trucks.
Have a blunt object in my truck doesn't have any problems I can come very close to the best last of any of them and I'm not a very good driver But I know I know how to turn the hell out of this truck
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Old 03-05-2013 | 05:45 PM
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I just punch it.

MY


SC 10 4x4 does the rest.

Ha!

I'm not sponsored by Ae...

I do get free T-Shirts & mass kick down from my Ae teammates though.....
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Old 03-05-2013 | 05:54 PM
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Go ahead and look at my leptons are rCHQ about six months ago charts very blown out but when I put them in Pistons on my truck and set them up right thing just flew as two seconds off the leader Group leader was running 30 Wernsing 32 seconds I've managed my best to the 32 second-most my averaging around 35 in the hands of my best friend he was able to run 30sc last back to back to back
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Old 03-05-2013 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
If you tried to raise the stud 8mm on the Exo hub it will be weak and perhaps the stud can snap off .
The only difference using I can see...
Craigmba said it best
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Why do you continue to give bad tech or worse blatantly lie???
Jesus man your so messed up I just wrote a fact based comparison about the exotek hubs being superior to the c-hubs in durability and adjustability with facts like geometry and weight distribution thru gravity for shock by position of ballstud.

Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Sorry Guys , just don't have any appreciation for 2nd hand story's...
Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
For everyone ..
The advise I bring here ?
Comes not from me , not one bit of it ..

All comes from my Ae teammates , like BK , Scott Brown , John Walentia , ect.

Just what you guys to know my source for all the information I bring here.


really......
You sir are in desperate need of a reality check.
Tell us again how you know so much about the exotek hubs since you've never owned it????

Originally Posted by J-Fraz203
What's the difference between the ft buggy c hub mod and the Excotek rear hubs spaced.
Here you go Bro Facts!!!!!!


Originally Posted by AE SC10 4X4


I run 6mm of washers on my exotek hubs and 7mm on shock tower.
My Track Conditions
Indoors 40 degrees, wet, sticky, hard and as the day progresses the top layer will get softer. very technical medium sized to large layout, we run barcodes supersoft. Because my track is smooth and isn't very bumpy the 8mm mod won't have a huge difference but its still noticeable. Combined with M2C toe block 3.5 setting there is a performance increase.


Shark posted this on rcshortcourse about stock height for exotek hubs being +1mm the normal hubs height without washers post #363
http://www.rcshortcourse.com/forum/t...10-4x4-19.html



post #351
http://www.rcshortcourse.com/forum/n...reply&p=283766
Exotek carrier on left (with 6mm of spacers) and stock carrier with B4 mod on right.
You can see with 6mm of washers the exotek ballstud is the same height as the b4 hub the original 8mm mod. so 6mm is what you need to replicate 8mm mod with exotek hubs



7mm of washers on the shock tower inside ballstud seems to be common but some guys like 5mm
Originally Posted by AE SC10 4X4
I am told that the bumpier the track the more the 8mm mod works since my track is pretty smooth it isn't as noticeable as the M2C toe block but it can't hurt and with the exotek hubs







I didn't install anything, its a reference photo from shark on rc shortcourse, I even posted a link and # of the post
Either way even flipped the b4 hub would still be the same height for the ballstud height. But yes your right it is installed upside down. So lets not confuse people with bad info not pertaining to the matter at hand. Which is the ballstud height on the b4 hub for the 8mm mod being duplicated with 6mm of washer on the exotek rear hubs


Why would I want the same camber location as the c-hub everyone that I know, that has done the 8mm mod hates the way the camber link sits with the b4 hub in front of rear shock spring as clearance is not very good, and prefer the clean angle allowed by exotek. The exotek allows more option for height and length of camber link so it has more tuning ability and its solid aluminum vs a thin piece of graphite anchored with 2 screws so it will take more abuse.

The b4 hub mod is a substandard design to the exotek rear hubs.

The ballstud being mounted (sideways) is more likely to snap off, being in weaker position to handle stress forces of a crash or hard landing and its on a thin piece of graphite held in place by 2 screws.
Its called gravity you can argue about it but pretty sure all of us know its the one thing pulling us down constantly besides bad tech


The exotek has solid aluminum construction and easy to tune design.
The exotek hubs geometry lets the ballstud sit on top of the block allowing the force of impact over bumps or landings to transfer thru the rear hub, the ballstud is in the optimum position to absorb the stress of impact, tranferring force downward by gravity into a solid block of aluminum and not at an awkward angle off a thin piece of graphite.

Exotek rear hubs are a better design that is superior to the b4 mod.
Even without the 8mm mod the exotek hubs are worth having just for easy tuning ability.
get info from actual owners
also with the exotek you can extend the camber link farther as the exotek front mounting hole is closer to the tire than any length you can gain with the b4 hub
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Old 03-05-2013 | 07:23 PM
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nice repost on the +8mm mod info and your experiences with the exotek carriers. Always nice to have somone post about actual experiences with a product.
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Old 03-05-2013 | 07:25 PM
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so has the mc2 joined the exotek are a required upgrade?
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Old 03-05-2013 | 07:30 PM
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for loose tracks, I would say yes.

On carpet, I found benefit to it using 2.75 degrees toe in. gave excellent rotation for the tight track I ran on.
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Old 03-05-2013 | 07:59 PM
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Maybe you should pick up the tekno truck then, if it worked for that guy then it will probably work out for you too.

For me the transition from FTsc10 to the Ft sc10 4x4 feels pretty natural and thats what I like about it mainly.
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Old 03-05-2013 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jstall7543
What about the catus classic, the truck was rediculously fast there. It wasn't loose soil but man can those guys drive. If you haven't watched it then your missing out.
You must of watched a different race than I did - the AE stuff was a second a lap PLUS off the pace in SC4x4.

Then again....Maybe being pink and two laps down is your version of ridiculous fast. Sorry, too snarky?
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Old 03-06-2013 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigMBA
Y
Then again....Maybe being pink and two laps down is your version of ridiculous fast. Sorry, too snarky?
LOL. Just a wee bit ...
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