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Old 02-17-2013 | 05:18 PM
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I just ran on a super high grip indoor clay track and ran M4 Blockades and they were dialed. Tire wear wasn't bad at all.
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Old 02-17-2013 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lilws6
I did think about getting some m3 or m4 tires. was worried they would be too soft. are the clay compound just to hard for the track?
Yes thats more black dirt mix.
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Old 02-17-2013 | 09:23 PM
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I dont have the best setup on my truck but I have a setup that works.
Traxxas slash tires (older style tires that are cut) glued to SC10 rims for the back, and stock SC10 tires on the front. Work great on an indoor slightly dusty track. I also use these traxxas tires on oval too, and they work like glue when they are prepped with tire traction compound. I have some saved to glue up another pair of rears later on. I may not like much traxxas stuff but thier tires
and waterproof servos I'll use.
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Old 02-17-2013 | 09:54 PM
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I am new with this truck and rc trucks in general.
I have a question for you guys. I have a bad on power push on a indoor smooth clay track. I am running Maifeilds setup with barcodes all the way around. It is the FT version. Thanks
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Old 02-17-2013 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by valleypatroll
I am new with this truck and rc trucks in general.
I have a question for you guys. I have a bad on power push on a indoor smooth clay track. I am running Maifeilds setup with barcodes all the way around. It is the FT version. Thanks
ck the slipper if too tight

too tight not good on or off power ( throttle)
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Old 02-17-2013 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
ck the slipper if too tight

too tight not good on or off power ( throttle)
Are you referring to the ball diff? or slipper on the spur gear? Not questioning your advice, but I don't understand how the slipper would affect off power steering. Please explain.
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Old 02-17-2013 | 10:47 PM
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Yes the slipper , its that thing on the spur LoL

Most adjust it way tight .
Common to see ..
Try loosing if you can't hear it slip a foot or more when you nail the throttle..
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Old 02-18-2013 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ???E-Racer
I dont have the best setup on my truck but I have a setup that works.
Traxxas slash tires (older style tires that are cut) glued to SC10 rims for the back, and stock SC10 tires on the front. Work great on an indoor slightly dusty track. I also use these traxxas tires on oval too, and they work like glue when they are prepped with tire traction compound. I have some saved to glue up another pair of rears later on. I may not like much traxxas stuff but thier tires
and waterproof servos I'll use.
I do the same thing....I use the elecs and the motor and esc...and the tires as well
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Old 02-18-2013 | 07:37 AM
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ways to fix on on-power push in order what i would do /// less toe/// more weight oil in the rear/// camber links on out-side hub///run less weight in the rear/// tight n your diff/// less anti squat/// if you do all that and still have a push try mid motor set up... witch the first two should be all you need to do.
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Old 02-18-2013 | 07:51 AM
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you can try a stiffer spring/oil in the rear to slow the weight from moving back. Maybe add a little weight up front also. There are several ways to address this issue. Some ways affect more than maybe you want thought. I would try the springs and oil in the rear first. Most of the time on power push is weight distribution.
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Old 02-18-2013 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lilws6
Ok i think ive got the truck almost dialed in but i've got a few tweaks i need help with. The truck in run on indoor smooth clay at trackside in WI. Ive got an close setup to one of the 2010 chad due setups in the truck now i'm running 30 weight oil all the way around which seems good, springs feel good (i think blue front silver rear have to double check.) 3.5* toe in the back with 2 antisquat. Now ive got two issues that i can drive around but are kind of anoying if i could get them minimized a little bit more i'd be happy. Coming into the sweeper i'm all good until i lift throttle then it starts to step out which i'm ok with i just get on the throttle a little and it straightens out. But what i know is slowing me down is i'm getting a very noticable push on the infield. What can i do to get it to bite a little bit more in the front? The other thing it does is coming on the straight we have a banked turn to the straight. This may be that i just have to stay off the throttle longer but if i get in it to early the back end gets all kind of loose and i end up lifting atleast once or twice to get it straightened out.(this might be the track also) I'm running stock 17.5 and over all the truck is dialed in the suspension i just know i'm missing something to get it right for me. heres a link to the setup i started off of like i said ive got 30 wt oil front and back now i don't have the 30* caster blocks or the rear hubs(this might help?) and i didn't add weight. Everything else is pretty close to this sheet.
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associa...es20101205.pdf
One thing I see at Trackside is that most are running the blue/green spring combo. I think many are running 30ft-25-27.5r for oil. I went from 2* down to 1* anti squat and that seemed to help me in the turns. Looking at your setup page you could try moving the rear shock out on the a-arm.

A good link for set up info: http://users.telenet.be/elvo/
Here it says that less anti squat will give more side bite which should help in the sweeper.

I am no expert there so take my advice as you will. Chad is often there on Tuesdays to race and he might be able to help. You might also talk to Adam as he is one of the faster guys there too.
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Old 02-18-2013 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
you can try a stiffer spring/oil in the rear to slow the weight from moving back. Maybe add a little weight up front also. There are several ways to address this issue. Some ways affect more than maybe you want thought. I would try the springs and oil in the rear first. Most of the time on power push is weight distribution.
not say n stiffer spring dose not work or will not work for him but how i view it if your on a grippy track!!! a stiffer rear suspension will not compress(on-power) as good and can cuz you to do wheelie witch could make your push worst. and a soft spring would have less grip (on-power) with more squat. it sound all wrong but you take a fast truck on the street and test it your self (front end lift more with harder rear springs or with more anti-aquat). once you up to speed it work the other way around. so if you having a push in a high speed turn hard rear spring should work.

if any body know more plz tell me if i'm wrong lol this is the way i view it!!!or is there a manual out there that tells how rear spring rate works!!! i try to stay away from rear spring rate.

spring rate is so hard to deal with. this is probably(not sure) why almost all the top driver keep the same spring rate on every track they run on and change every thing else.
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Old 02-18-2013 | 12:40 PM
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Well like i said, there are many ways to address this. Many of the pros will add a little weight up front to keep the front on the ground better as well. If my traction is way off, I often play with tires. This past weekend with my buggy I was pushing on entry and on exit and my rear was sliding, lol..... 10 minutes playing with tires and I was MUCH close to what I needed,then it was a couple minor ride height changes and good. You can also try a little weight in front of the servo, maybe 1/2 oz.
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Old 02-18-2013 | 02:57 PM
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Jconcepts wheel dish inserts for Hazard wheels. Look awesome!
http://www.jconcepts.net/index.php?/...s_details/2839
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Old 02-18-2013 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mark in wi
One thing I see at Trackside is that most are running the blue/green spring combo. I think many are running 30ft-25-27.5r for oil. I went from 2* down to 1* anti squat and that seemed to help me in the turns. Looking at your setup page you could try moving the rear shock out on the a-arm.

A good link for set up info: http://users.telenet.be/elvo/
Here it says that less anti squat will give more side bite which should help in the sweeper.

I am no expert there so take my advice as you will. Chad is often there on Tuesdays to race and he might be able to help. You might also talk to Adam as he is one of the faster guys there too.
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im all with you on the anti-squat it make the tuck to unpredictable for me. it like i have super good grip coming out of the turn then next turn why did i spin or where did it go!!! i can see how it can make you run faster time just to hard for me to drive. this is why i try to get my grip with the toe-in (a lot more grip and more unpredictable.

and that a good web site for tune n cars!!! it gose with the way i think the spring work. it said a soft spring squat a lot while accelerating. so a soft spring should cuz more tire spin less grip under accelerating. then less accelerating your doing with a softer spring the more grip it will have for weight transfer. it tell you to go to Anti-squat for more info and it tells you that act of Anti-squat work at it best few meters under accelerating... so a soft spring should work the same way the first 6to7feet will have less grip then you should have more grip after the hard accelerating.
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