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Old 10-15-2012 | 08:41 AM
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Just a few drops of oil on the seals before comparing advised ...
Very difficult to check stick with the shock body full of oil .

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Old 10-15-2012 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Reason I advised to compare pushing the piston back forth inside the shock with no oil ?

Is to compare the stick the rings bring what ever brand you are using .

Less stick is best for traction & performance ..


One ring install is easy way to reduce the stick.

Trimming .030 off the cartridge is great because you still get the benefits two seals bring (less oil leak)....
Yeah, I have no problem with your proposed method of testing. I think it is probably the best method to start with (to see if you can feel the difference) and then the ultimate test would be identical shock builds with different rings, then see if you can feel the difference on the track.

My comments, rather, had to do with individuals making tech suggestions without having done the required testing themselves. I have no problem with giving half-informed opinions, however, if they are presented that way.
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Old 10-15-2012 | 08:55 AM
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You have great attitude drol, respectfully ...
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Old 10-15-2012 | 09:10 AM
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Old 10-15-2012 | 09:36 AM
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A little video for you guys to enjoy ....

Our N/w Gold Cup over the weekend.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hAiH...layer_embedded
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Old 10-15-2012 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cody227
It raises the roll-center so you have less traction roll
Thanks that's what I thought when shortening the camber link also help
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Old 10-15-2012 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
The truck will have a lot less traction and will become difficult to drive .

Making jumps will not be the problem , slipping and sliding will become a big issue instead.
This is his opinion based on his (one) track and is not a correct overall assessment of changing the springs this way.

There are people here who will swear by this spring change over many tracks with improved jumping and handling.
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Old 10-15-2012 | 01:18 PM
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I ran the front blues in the rear on a low-med bite outdoor track and I thought the truck was a lot more calm. I never liked the yellow rear springs. I tried it several times, always the same. front blues in the rear were better.
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Old 10-15-2012 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
I ran the front blues in the rear on a low-med bite outdoor track and I thought the truck was a lot more calm. I never liked the yellow rear springs. I tried it several times, always the same. front blues in the rear were better.
I am going to give this a try. How do you make up the 3/4 of an inch difference in spring length though?
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Old 10-15-2012 | 01:24 PM
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I was able to get my ride height, with the collars all the way down with the blue springs. Some people used a softer front spring in the rear and put the 8mmm spacers UNDER the spring cup or above the eyelet.
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Old 10-15-2012 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Reason I advised to compare pushing the piston back forth inside the shock with no oil ?

Is to compare the stick the rings bring what ever brand you are using .

Less stick is best for traction & performance ..


One ring install is easy way to reduce the stick.

Trimming .030 off the cartridge is great because you still get the benefits two seals bring (less oil leak)....
Any reason to be against the Trackstar orings?
To me two of the Trackstar orings feels better than just one of the stock x rings and you don't need to trim anything.
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Old 10-15-2012 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by raypa
Any reason to be against the Trackstar orings?
To me two of the Trackstar orings feels better than just one of the stock x rings and you don't need to trim anything.
Nothing wrong with , don't think there's any less stick though .

Trim method is easy & free...
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Old 10-15-2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Maddog94
I am going to give this a try. How do you make up the 3/4 of an inch difference in spring length though?
Add your travel limiters between the spring bucket and the eyelet, raising the bucket. You can set ride height okay without the spacers, but the spring will "fall out"of the bucket where you get maximum droop.

You need 6 to 8 mm of uptravel limiters to keep from roaching the outdrives anyway.
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Old 10-15-2012 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Maddog94
I am going to give this a try. How do you make up the 3/4 of an inch difference in spring length though?
I was worried about the spring rate and rear travel being all jacked up from the shorter spring.

I talked to a few of my AE pro driver friends, none of them are doing the "fronts in the rear" thing. At least none that I talked to.

The majority are running yellows F/R.
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Old 10-15-2012 | 04:58 PM
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The pro Drivers Can Dr. the wheels off of anything I have a friend that I let him drive my car with one set up and he was faster than I was two seconds faster with the other set up
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