Team Associated TC6 Thread
#7606
Mr, Hebert gave me a quick tip that I had not considered.
Tc6.1 arms.
Grind the area where the spring retainer meets the arms.
Just enough so they dont rub in all arm positions.
I had been struggling with chassis tweak, shock lengths, weight balance etc only to find that the retainers were not allowing the shocks to work freely.
Small pointer = huge relief in frusteration.
Just wish I had done this in Vegas and not at home.....Oh well next year
Just posted 4 Mains from the iic on you tube.
Channel= DaveChen.
Tc6.1 arms.
Grind the area where the spring retainer meets the arms.
Just enough so they dont rub in all arm positions.
I had been struggling with chassis tweak, shock lengths, weight balance etc only to find that the retainers were not allowing the shocks to work freely.
Small pointer = huge relief in frusteration.
Just wish I had done this in Vegas and not at home.....Oh well next year

Just posted 4 Mains from the iic on you tube.
Channel= DaveChen.
Thks
Enrico
#7609
What is the deal with the "Total Toe" specification on the setup sheet?
It seems that the rear end has about .5 of toe built in, is that right?
So if I used the same FWD arm mount as the RWD and no shims then I would have .5 total toe in the rear end?
If I have the same FWD and RWD blocks in the rear then add 1mm shim to each RWD then I would have 1.5 total toe in the rear. Is this 1.5 degrees?
Why is it called total toe? It appears that its a per side total rather than a combined total. Like I would expect 1.5 degrees per side to be 3 degrees total toe.
It seems that the rear end has about .5 of toe built in, is that right?
So if I used the same FWD arm mount as the RWD and no shims then I would have .5 total toe in the rear end?
If I have the same FWD and RWD blocks in the rear then add 1mm shim to each RWD then I would have 1.5 total toe in the rear. Is this 1.5 degrees?
Why is it called total toe? It appears that its a per side total rather than a combined total. Like I would expect 1.5 degrees per side to be 3 degrees total toe.
#7610
If you use the same blocks front and rear, you get 0 degrees, so long as you build your hubs with 0 degree inserts.
With the car, each 0.8mm equals roughly 1 degree of toe. So if your car is 2mm wider in the rear than the front, your car has about 2.5 degrees of rear toe.
With the car, each 0.8mm equals roughly 1 degree of toe. So if your car is 2mm wider in the rear than the front, your car has about 2.5 degrees of rear toe.
#7611
If you use the same blocks front and rear, you get 0 degrees, so long as you build your hubs with 0 degree inserts.
With the car, each 0.8mm equals roughly 1 degree of toe. So if your car is 2mm wider in the rear than the front, your car has about 2.5 degrees of rear toe.
With the car, each 0.8mm equals roughly 1 degree of toe. So if your car is 2mm wider in the rear than the front, your car has about 2.5 degrees of rear toe.
Most all of the setup sheets I see list the FRW mount shim and the RWD mount shim and I just subtract the rear from the front and get a total. For example if I have 3mm at the RWD and .5mm at the FWD mount then I have net 2.5mm.
If I want to know my total toe in degrees then I can add about 20% to that number making my total toe about 3 degrees.
But it still is a per side figure? Not a total of both sides.
#7612
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Responding to WTCC, I am racing with my TC6 at the moment. The only reason I am trying to update the suspension is for potentially more corner speed. I was informed that the TC6.1 has more steering so I assume that's from the new steering blocks and the new suspension geometry.
However, you don't seem to find the TC6.1 faster than your TC6. Now I might reconsider the update.
#7613
Cristian,
I have the RSD bladders, pistons, and spring set for the TC6.1 shocks. What oil and spring combo would be a good starting point for medium traction bumpy carpet? What rebound would be best?
Also should I drill the shock caps with a 1mm hole or not?
I have the RSD bladders, pistons, and spring set for the TC6.1 shocks. What oil and spring combo would be a good starting point for medium traction bumpy carpet? What rebound would be best?
Also should I drill the shock caps with a 1mm hole or not?
#7615
Im excited, I just ordered my worlds chasis and should have it on Monday 
But i have just recently moved from blinky (21.5) to mod (4.5) so im still learning and will probably leave the old chassis in until i have it more under control, and i am a little more on the pace. Give me another couple of months.
Beth.

But i have just recently moved from blinky (21.5) to mod (4.5) so im still learning and will probably leave the old chassis in until i have it more under control, and i am a little more on the pace. Give me another couple of months.
Beth.
#7617
Oh I see. I didnt actually build the car so I failed to notice those inserts. I knew the fronts had them but never bothered to check the rear.
Most all of the setup sheets I see list the FRW mount shim and the RWD mount shim and I just subtract the rear from the front and get a total. For example if I have 3mm at the RWD and .5mm at the FWD mount then I have net 2.5mm.
If I want to know my total toe in degrees then I can add about 20% to that number making my total toe about 3 degrees.
But it still is a per side figure? Not a total of both sides.
Most all of the setup sheets I see list the FRW mount shim and the RWD mount shim and I just subtract the rear from the front and get a total. For example if I have 3mm at the RWD and .5mm at the FWD mount then I have net 2.5mm.
If I want to know my total toe in degrees then I can add about 20% to that number making my total toe about 3 degrees.
But it still is a per side figure? Not a total of both sides.
#7618
#7619
In the shocks, I have been running 3x1.1 pistons lately, but you can use the 1,1,1.5's and just run 50-100 cst higher.
I always run drilled shock caps with zero rebound.
#7620
Im excited, I just ordered my worlds chasis and should have it on Monday 
But i have just recently moved from blinky (21.5) to mod (4.5) so im still learning and will probably leave the old chassis in until i have it more under control, and i am a little more on the pace. Give me another couple of months.
Beth.

But i have just recently moved from blinky (21.5) to mod (4.5) so im still learning and will probably leave the old chassis in until i have it more under control, and i am a little more on the pace. Give me another couple of months.
Beth.
I upgrade my TC6.1 to the Worlds edition. It is a lot of expensive stuff...

(I don't think it is really worth it, because speed will be nearly the same, but bling bling and a little easier for rollcenter...)



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