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Old 02-24-2012 | 11:14 AM
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Hanging it on a wall wont fix your problem. Giving up is too easy. You just have to keep.experimenting with shock oils and springs till it feels right to you.

My buddy manufactures lcg chassis for slash' s, they push, theyre great for straight line speed but they cannot take a corner tight like the ae. He beats all the other trucks cause he is a really good driver. He was running in the a main with his prototype at pnb l year against good drivers like jeremy kortz . I gotta say they are durable. I think the only thing that techinically is traxxas is just the diffs and shock towers and drivetrain.
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Old 02-24-2012 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigMBA
Complaining is one thing. Constructively identifying problems, discussing them, trying solutions, and discussing the results is another. This is precisely how you do development work.

Facts are facts - the shaft drive trucks pwn the AE bunch outdoor if the track is loose, rough, or the grip is low. The truck isn't possessed - collectively, nobody has a good setup for that situation. Collectively, we can get a whole lot more done than singularly to reach that goal - but that requires us to man up and acknowledge the problems.

IMO, I don't see anyone sport b*tching lately.
Ok I apologize let me correct myself, I was talking more complaining as a whole in general and not just on this forum but others and my local track.

I completely agree that identifying the problem and discussing them is great and will only help to improve the SC10 even more. Which is why I am thankful to all of those who help not only on this forum but at my local track as well....
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Old 02-24-2012 | 11:33 AM
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I just found that one of my shocks was leaking heavily from the bottom.. this is a truck that never even ran on a track yet. It was even sitting with wheels off the ground when it leaked.. to the point of actually dripping down the a-arm. No seals appear damaged, I took them apart completely. I ordered the trackstar o-rings, but they'll take weeks from the US. Is there any known issue with leaks from the cartridge?
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Old 02-24-2012 | 11:51 AM
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My only concern is that if it is true that AE is looking at a RC8 based vehicle for a new 1/10 4x4 SCT to compete, the SC10 4x4 will end up as a dead design.

I hope that they can solve the issues without doing that, but it may be the way they go.
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Old 02-24-2012 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Arakon
I just found that one of my shocks was leaking heavily from the bottom.. this is a truck that never even ran on a track yet. It was even sitting with wheels off the ground when it leaked.. to the point of actually dripping down the a-arm. No seals appear damaged, I took them apart completely. I ordered the trackstar o-rings, but they'll take weeks from the US. Is there any known issue with leaks from the cartridge?


Make sure shock cartridge seal tubes (#91054)
are installed taper side down...
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Old 02-24-2012 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Make sure shock cartridge seal tubes (#91054)
are installed taper side down...
They look to be. I've taken the shocks completely apart now and will wait for the o-rings.. I also ordered the o-rings that go between cartridge and shock body, since AE didn't include them in my earlier revision of the kit.. they only seem to have added them in the latest.
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Old 02-24-2012 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cain
My only concern is that if it is true that AE is looking at a RC8 based vehicle for a new 1/10 4x4 SCT to compete, the SC10 4x4 will end up as a dead design.

I hope that they can solve the issues without doing that, but it may be the way they go.
I hope they do something like the RC8. I don't think I'll be able to stand the wait though. Took long enough for this version to come out...

I drove my E RC8 at the local small indoor track last night. Hadn't drove it there, ever. I have a ton of laps at this track w/ my sc10.

After 1-2 laps the RC8 felt so much better than the truck. I could actually watch were the buggy was going instead of watching for the back end to slide out. Putting the power down and braking are so drama free. I was running 4s w/ a 2050kv motor...

The typical 3-diff layout just works. IMO, nothing is going to split power between axles like a fluid filled differential.....
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Old 02-24-2012 | 01:10 PM
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I also posted this on the rc shox board.

Got my diff but not sure where the included shim goes during assembly. It's not shown on the instruction diagram that I found.
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Old 02-24-2012 | 01:34 PM
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Has anyone put their truck on the scales as a roller? Interested to see how much of the weight bias is on the truck and how much is the placement of the electronics.
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Old 02-24-2012 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegatron75
I hope they do something like the RC8. I don't think I'll be able to stand the wait though. Took long enough for this version to come out...

I drove my E RC8 at the local small indoor track last night. Hadn't drove it there, ever. I have a ton of laps at this track w/ my sc10.

After 1-2 laps the RC8 felt so much better than the truck. I could actually watch were the buggy was going instead of watching for the back end to slide out. Putting the power down and braking are so drama free. I was running 4s w/ a 2050kv motor...

The typical 3-diff layout just works. IMO, nothing is going to split power between axles like a fluid filled differential.....
I'm running both the SC04x and the RC8Be indoors right now. I'd be a happy hobbiest if my SC felt half as planted as my RC.

I'd pony up immediately for an RC8 based SC10.
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Old 02-24-2012 | 01:49 PM
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So Correct me if I'm wrong but it boils down to two main problems.
1. This truck does not have traction. Caused by the high cog and low roll center causing you to run stiff springs.
2. The truck does not have very good air control. Caused by bad weight distribution. (?)
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Old 02-24-2012 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Genius jr.
Has anyone put their truck on the scales as a roller? Interested to see how much of the weight bias is on the truck and how much is the placement of the electronics.
I did, but then it occured to me "what's the point of that - do you drive your truck as a roller much?"

A 540 Novak is 189 grams.
A 550 Novak is 288 grams.
A 5300 65c Thunderpower battery is 238 grams. Saddles are about the same.

You have one choice on where to put the motor, and two or three on where to put the battery.
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Old 02-24-2012 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Genius jr.
So Correct me if I'm wrong but it boils down to two main problems.
1. This truck does not have traction. Caused by the high cog and low roll center causing you to run stiff springs.
False. The Hyper has about 20% more spring frequency than the AE does using four yellow front springs (way stiffer than kit) and nobody complains about the Hyper being down on grip. They can also get away with 17mm of ride height as long as they backside all the jumps.

2. The truck does not have very good air control. Caused by bad weight distribution. (?)
False. Truck has poor air control because of the spring mismatch (rear rates are radically softer than fronts), causing the truck to launch wierd if you have to jump on the gas. If you increase rear spring rate, be aware you'll need to increase damping to match the spring with the shock.
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Old 02-24-2012 | 02:01 PM
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So may I ask what the main problems are and the cause? (Excess my noobness just trying to figure out whats going on)
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Old 02-24-2012 | 02:02 PM
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