Eagle Racing MD2 Motor Dyno
#211
Tech Rookie
You are basically suggesting a 1s test. If you use batteries that are not fully charged, you are not likely to get consistent results. One of the guys in this thread was successful in running 1s tests with his setup. Something that I am going to do is build a rig that will utilize gearing to factor in different loads.
If the encoder is on the flywheel, I can run a 2:1 gear which will cut the RPM in half at the flywheel. Now to deal with the added current draw of the lower turn motors.
Of course other gear ratios will be possible as well.
If the encoder is on the flywheel, I can run a 2:1 gear which will cut the RPM in half at the flywheel. Now to deal with the added current draw of the lower turn motors.
Of course other gear ratios will be possible as well.
Imo if you balance charge to 4volts its as consistent as any other volt.
#212
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I would welcome your input over here:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...no-thread.html
#213
I like the idea of geared rig very much, and i hope you can make such system and hopefully share how to make one. But my question was about minimum voltage that the md2 can handle. That one guy (Troy Carter) was able to get some results with 1s, but motor was cogging. So did he use one or two 1s lipos? or why is the motor cogging. i think he was also using external power source and to me its wery weird that motor is cogging.
Imo if you balance charge to 4volts its as consistent as any other volt.
Imo if you balance charge to 4volts its as consistent as any other volt.
The motor cogged with an LRP SXX that I've been using when running 2s packs which ruins the dyno data because the RPM's jump around too much. I did also try a HW v3.1 1s esc with the built in booster and the data looked much better but not as consistent at when using 2s packs. I'm not sure if it's an ESC issue or an available power issue. Looking at the data it the initial hit drops the voltage to 3.0-3.3v when using good 1s packs which which can't be good for consistent dyno runs.
Because 1s packs were inconsistent I have not been able to compare to see if changes made to a motor effect the 1s dyno results the same as 2s results.
#214
Tech Rookie
I ran two 1s packs, both charged to 4.20 volts and used the external power supply for the dyno which is required because 4.2v is not enough to run the dyno electronics.
The motor cogged with an LRP SXX that I've been using when running 2s packs which ruins the dyno data because the RPM's jump around too much. I did also try a HW v3.1 1s esc with the built in booster and the data looked much better but not as consistent at when using 2s packs. I'm not sure if it's an ESC issue or an available power issue. Looking at the data it the initial hit drops the voltage to 3.0-3.3v when using good 1s packs which which can't be good for consistent dyno runs.
Because 1s packs were inconsistent I have not been able to compare to see if changes made to a motor effect the 1s dyno results the same as 2s results.
The motor cogged with an LRP SXX that I've been using when running 2s packs which ruins the dyno data because the RPM's jump around too much. I did also try a HW v3.1 1s esc with the built in booster and the data looked much better but not as consistent at when using 2s packs. I'm not sure if it's an ESC issue or an available power issue. Looking at the data it the initial hit drops the voltage to 3.0-3.3v when using good 1s packs which which can't be good for consistent dyno runs.
Because 1s packs were inconsistent I have not been able to compare to see if changes made to a motor effect the 1s dyno results the same as 2s results.
#217
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On a Dyno run you can get an initial current draw of over 30-40 Amps (and thats only on a 21.5 from my testing), so your power supply would need to be capable of delivering 2s voltage at 30-40 amps (higher amperage capability needed for lower turn motors, I'd allow for at least 60A). Which is why batteries are favoured for Dyno runs.
#219
It's adjustable from 6.8v to 9v. 600w. 0-80 Amps.
#220
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That will require a flywheel with twice the moment of inertia. But since you are a talented guy, I'm sure it won't be a problem!
I would welcome your input over here:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...no-thread.html
I would welcome your input over here:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...no-thread.html
#221
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I'm curious as to why some folks are hell bent to use a power supply for dyno testing when we all use LiPo batteries for racing anyways and these batteries are portable, powerful and reliable. They provide the exact power source for which we are testing motors for in the first place. They are capable of delivering hundreds of amps and absorb fluctuating voltage transients. So why seek an alternate source that may or may not be representative of actual usage in the field?
Just sayin...
Just sayin...
#222
R/C Tech Elite Member
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I'm curious as to why some folks are hell bent to use a power supply for dyno testing when we all use LiPo batteries for racing anyways and these batteries are portable, powerful and reliable. They provide the exact power source for which we are testing motors for in the first place. They are capable of delivering hundreds of amps and absorb fluctuating voltage transients. So why seek an alternate source that may or may not be representative of actual usage in the field?
Just sayin...
Just sayin...
#223
Tech Elite
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I'm curious as to why some folks are hell bent to use a power supply for dyno testing when we all use LiPo batteries for racing anyways and these batteries are portable, powerful and reliable. They provide the exact power source for which we are testing motors for in the first place. They are capable of delivering hundreds of amps and absorb fluctuating voltage transients. So why seek an alternate source that may or may not be representative of actual usage in the field?
Just sayin...
Just sayin...
Last edited by howardcano; 12-26-2015 at 03:29 AM.
#224
It might be because these folks are curious about the behavior of just the motor, and wish to separate it from as many other effects as possible to get a better understanding of what's going on. Also, comparing results with a power supply to results with a battery will show just how much loss of performance is caused by the battery.
However, every time that I dyno a new motor I first re-dyno a known motor as a baseline to compare against. I also compare the new baseline of the known motor to the previous runs on that motor. This is all in an effort to minimize variances that can occur from anywhere, including the lipo's. So, if I were to run this off a consistent power supply this extra step may not be required.
#225
Tech Apprentice
PC software
Hi,
What software file are you guys using from the eagle racing webpage.
There's 3 to choose from.
USB_cdc_device_driver.zip
Eagle_md2.zip
Eagle_md2_v1.1.zip
Regards
Matt
What software file are you guys using from the eagle racing webpage.
There's 3 to choose from.
USB_cdc_device_driver.zip
Eagle_md2.zip
Eagle_md2_v1.1.zip
Regards
Matt