speed control to motor combo
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Can you run a Fuze sensorless speed control with a sensored Tekin 1700kv motor? I am running this combo with a 4 cell and a 17 pinion and I can't get over 20mph with everything set on high on the speed control. What am I doing wrong?
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#7
I've run a sensored 1900Kv Trackstar on an unsensored 150Amp HW with no issues at all. From what I was told on a thread here, the motor defaults back to a base 0 degree timing without sensor input. Either this truck is massively geared wrong or maybe the motor endbell timing has been changed. Granted I don't know Tekin, but I can't imagine their any different than most others on timing and sensorless operation.
I'm really curious to see what this ends up being.
I'm really curious to see what this ends up being.
#8
I'm pretty sure that a sensored motor can run in un-sensored mode but a sensored ESC may or may not support sensorless operation. The motor doesn't care if the sensor is hooked up or not. I'd put money on it that there's something else going on. Calibration issue maybe?
#9
but a sensored ESC may or may not support sensorless operation
But wait, he said the esc is unsensored? Ugh. Maybe it's a pole issue, a 4 pole motor on an esc that only supports 2 pole?
#14
Not much you can do about the poles. But from what I have read on that issue is, the sensored motor on an unsensored esc may not start unless you spin the rotor manually to start it. Then it will run until it is stopped, then you have to spin it again to restart it. I'm no expert, but I believe the sensor in the motor is what tells the esc what position the rotor is at. I guess as one field collapses, it signals the esc to start energizing the next set of field windings.
When the esc can't control or "know" where the rotor is, it can cause cogging/ stuttering on start up. That's why sensored setups are smoother on start up and off the line, than non sensored ones.
Probably at this point, I would find some sensored esc in the classified and try that. I would guess a 120 amp or so, would work for this?
When the esc can't control or "know" where the rotor is, it can cause cogging/ stuttering on start up. That's why sensored setups are smoother on start up and off the line, than non sensored ones.
Probably at this point, I would find some sensored esc in the classified and try that. I would guess a 120 amp or so, would work for this?
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Not much you can do about the poles. But from what I have read on that issue is, the sensored motor on an unsensored esc may not start unless you spin the rotor manually to start it. Then it will run until it is stopped, then you have to spin it again to restart it. I'm no expert, but I believe the sensor in the motor is what tells the esc what position the rotor is at. I guess as one field collapses, it signals the esc to start energizing the next set of field windings.
When the esc can't control or "know" where the rotor is, it can cause cogging/ stuttering on start up. That's why sensored setups are smoother on start up and off the line, than non sensored ones.
Probably at this point, I would find some sensored esc in the classified and try that. I would guess a 120 amp or so, would work for this?
When the esc can't control or "know" where the rotor is, it can cause cogging/ stuttering on start up. That's why sensored setups are smoother on start up and off the line, than non sensored ones.
Probably at this point, I would find some sensored esc in the classified and try that. I would guess a 120 amp or so, would work for this?


