charger ...what's the diff?
#2
some chargers are more accurate in their balancing, or offer faster balancing currents. stuff like that. more expensive chargers usually come with more/different features too. things like step charging, or pulse charge/dischagre.
#4
A better charger? Yes, there are better ones and there are adequate ones.
As far as a better charge? Electrons are electrons... Unless someone figured out how to change the charge on an electron, a charge is a charge.
The only real differences you'll find between a 'good' charger and a 'better' charger are more sensitive components that can detect smaller differences in the charge of each cell. You're essentially filing a 2 (or more depending on the number of cells) buckets of water after they're empty. The cheap charger might measure the height of water inthe bucket with a ruler, the more expensive might use a flowmeter, scale, or caliper.
As far as a better charge? Electrons are electrons... Unless someone figured out how to change the charge on an electron, a charge is a charge.
The only real differences you'll find between a 'good' charger and a 'better' charger are more sensitive components that can detect smaller differences in the charge of each cell. You're essentially filing a 2 (or more depending on the number of cells) buckets of water after they're empty. The cheap charger might measure the height of water inthe bucket with a ruler, the more expensive might use a flowmeter, scale, or caliper.
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#5
The better chargers are able to set the charging voltage to 8.44 or even higher while most standard chargers only do 8.40 volt.
Also the better chargers do have more power what will heat up the LiPo internal (if the LiPo may handle 3c or more)
Also the better chargers do have more power what will heat up the LiPo internal (if the LiPo may handle 3c or more)
#7
LOL the Sky is just a Hitec knock off. The internal components are very cheap
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skyrc makes the chargers Hitec puts their own software into. that's a email to me straight from hitec.
I don't know what makes it any better other than hitec's own charging parameters. maybe they're better battery engineers.
Im not slamming Hitec or SkyRc. I have an hitec X4 and it's been very reliable. I've heard other stories about not being so. but mine is almost 3 years old and I have no issues with mine.
the real problem with any of this is most companies have their stuff made in china. even expensive high end chargers like Icharger. what guarantee is there that after the company reps leave the factory the china company isn't using low grade parts to cut corners and save money.
there's no guarantee of this. the Chinese are very known for making counterfeit products. for instance Hakko brand soldering stations. hakko has a notice on their own site about it. there's also tons of Casio G-shock watches that are fakes. the counterfeiters don't even care, they put the casio name and trademarks on it also. they can't be brought to justice. this is another reason companies need to stop dealing with china. ok, I'm on a rant. lol
if a company is actually interested in making high end quality products they would make it themselves. look at novak for example. they make all their own stuff right there on site in their own factory in California. I would much rather pay extra money for a product like this. hint hint other companies that may be reading this...
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that's actually the other way around.
skyrc makes the chargers Hitec puts their own software into. that's a email to me straight from hitec.
I don't know what makes it any better other than hitec's own charging parameters. maybe they're better battery engineers.
Im not slamming Hitec or SkyRc. I have an hitec X4 and it's been very reliable. I've heard other stories about not being so. but mine is almost 3 years old and I have no issues with mine.
the real problem with any of this is most companies have their stuff made in china. even expensive high end chargers like Icharger. what guarantee is there that after the company reps leave the factory the china company isn't using low grade parts to cut corners and save money.
there's no guarantee of this. the Chinese are very known for making counterfeit products. for instance Hakko brand soldering stations. hakko has a notice on their own site about it. there's also tons of Casio G-shock watches that are fakes. the counterfeiters don't even care, they put the casio name and trademarks on it also. they can't be brought to justice. this is another reason companies need to stop dealing with china. ok, I'm on a rant. lol
if a company is actually interested in making high end quality products they would make it themselves. look at novak for example. they make all their own stuff right there on site in their own factory in California. I would much rather pay extra money for a product like this. hint hint other companies that may be reading this...
skyrc makes the chargers Hitec puts their own software into. that's a email to me straight from hitec.
I don't know what makes it any better other than hitec's own charging parameters. maybe they're better battery engineers.
Im not slamming Hitec or SkyRc. I have an hitec X4 and it's been very reliable. I've heard other stories about not being so. but mine is almost 3 years old and I have no issues with mine.
the real problem with any of this is most companies have their stuff made in china. even expensive high end chargers like Icharger. what guarantee is there that after the company reps leave the factory the china company isn't using low grade parts to cut corners and save money.
there's no guarantee of this. the Chinese are very known for making counterfeit products. for instance Hakko brand soldering stations. hakko has a notice on their own site about it. there's also tons of Casio G-shock watches that are fakes. the counterfeiters don't even care, they put the casio name and trademarks on it also. they can't be brought to justice. this is another reason companies need to stop dealing with china. ok, I'm on a rant. lol
if a company is actually interested in making high end quality products they would make it themselves. look at novak for example. they make all their own stuff right there on site in their own factory in California. I would much rather pay extra money for a product like this. hint hint other companies that may be reading this...
Side note, California (crazy state
) has laws about labeling a product as "Made in the USA". A certain percentage of the item must actually be MADE in the US. Novak had to remove that label.So I heard awhile ago anyway.
#10
Better chargers can charge above 6 amps. This can make a real difference in time. Lower price chargers rarely charge above 6 amps. 10 amps really separates them. A lot of people at the track are using the Hi Tech quad and very satisfied with it, for charging 2s batteries @ 6 amps. If you go 3s and higher, you will need a 10 amp charger, or higher.
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Better chargers can charge above 6 amps. This can make a real difference in time. Lower price chargers rarely charge above 6 amps. 10 amps really separates them. A lot of people at the track are using the Hi Tech quad and very satisfied with it, for charging 2s batteries @ 6 amps. If you go 3s and higher, you will need a 10 amp charger, or higher.
I know this always turns into a debate but some battery companies insist it will damage a lipo. I was just researching some batteries the other day and found this on a few sites. so until I never see this warning label anywhere again, 1c charging is all I'm going to do.
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Some advantages of better chargers that may be of interest, some already mentioned, include:
Internal resistance measurement, help compare performance and track condition of cell & packs. At least some chargers use the measurements for additional safety checks.
Higher discharging capability, useful for getting any left over fully charged packs into storage for better pack performance and life. Or at the extreme heating up the cells a bit to reduce IR for better performance.
More control of final voltage and charge state for competitive stock racing. Or alternatively to end the charge sooner for modified and playing, avoiding the last bit of slow CV charging can significantly reduce charge time with little loss of run time.
Higher balancing power for less than ideally balanced packs.
More sophisticated firmware, the better chargers charge quicker even at the same amp settings.
Internal resistance measurement, help compare performance and track condition of cell & packs. At least some chargers use the measurements for additional safety checks.
Higher discharging capability, useful for getting any left over fully charged packs into storage for better pack performance and life. Or at the extreme heating up the cells a bit to reduce IR for better performance.
More control of final voltage and charge state for competitive stock racing. Or alternatively to end the charge sooner for modified and playing, avoiding the last bit of slow CV charging can significantly reduce charge time with little loss of run time.
Higher balancing power for less than ideally balanced packs.
More sophisticated firmware, the better chargers charge quicker even at the same amp settings.
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#14
sky makes a lot of products then sold under different brand names.
I swear the lrp20 amp PS that I bought to match my charger was somehow made by sky... the basic design and parts used match the hitec PS that I had, all the way down to the little QC sticker on the bottom.
if not made directly by sky, probably the same factory.
I swear the lrp20 amp PS that I bought to match my charger was somehow made by sky... the basic design and parts used match the hitec PS that I had, all the way down to the little QC sticker on the bottom.
if not made directly by sky, probably the same factory.
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Some advantages of better chargers that may be of interest, some already mentioned, include:
Internal resistance measurement, help compare performance and track condition of cell & packs. At least some chargers use the measurements for additional safety checks.
Higher discharging capability, useful for getting any left over fully charged packs into storage for better pack performance and life. Or at the extreme heating up the cells a bit to reduce IR for better performance.
More control of final voltage and charge state for competitive stock racing. Or alternatively to end the charge sooner for modified and playing, avoiding the last bit of slow CV charging can significantly reduce charge time with little loss of run time.
Higher FASTER balancing power for less than ideally balanced packs.
More sophisticated firmware, the better chargers charge quicker even at the same amp settings.
Internal resistance measurement, help compare performance and track condition of cell & packs. At least some chargers use the measurements for additional safety checks.
Higher discharging capability, useful for getting any left over fully charged packs into storage for better pack performance and life. Or at the extreme heating up the cells a bit to reduce IR for better performance.
More control of final voltage and charge state for competitive stock racing. Or alternatively to end the charge sooner for modified and playing, avoiding the last bit of slow CV charging can significantly reduce charge time with little loss of run time.
Higher FASTER balancing power for less than ideally balanced packs.
More sophisticated firmware, the better chargers charge quicker even at the same amp settings.
Also, the biggest advantage is charging at higher rates to internally warm the pack up with the lowest IR for faster lap times.
Yes there is an advantage to this technique, and its all about a 10 minute window or so to start the race.
Yes, if your a good driver and have a good car you can make the A-main.
But this is only one part of the total race package.


