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Cartman 05-31-2013 12:55 PM

MRT RC4 Compatable pt news
 
MRT RC4 Information
I have been given permission to pass on this information .
MRT now have a pt that will work on ALL My laps systems. You can Have your existing personal number, also.
Myself and others have had these for a few months with very positive results.


So in summary your current MRT. will work on mylaps up to rc3 the new version will work on ALL mylaps not just limit you to Rc4

It's done as a trade in, send old transponder pay for
a new PTX (NS) transponder at a reduced price (-50%)
with the option to buy an extra one at half price.

Supplied transponders are on the original cloned ID
number or a matching ID number for non clones.

**LATEST NEWS**
They are available now, requesting an order number
and completing order form (send with transponders)
notifying ID numbers in advance helps to speed up
order processing and return of new transponders.

The order form and info via: [email protected]
or [email protected] for technical/support.

Cartman 05-31-2013 01:00 PM

Retail price of £49 (uk pounds)
Trade in deal currently trade in buy one get one free,

Not able to clone amb rc4 harry as of yet

howardcano 05-31-2013 01:22 PM

Congratulations to MRT!

It would be interesting to hear exactly what needed to be tweaked to make the PTX signal indistinguishable from an AMB. But I'd guess that information might be quite closely guarded.

Bob Malphurs 05-31-2013 07:54 PM

Just what we need....more bootleg transponders!

If mrt had any balls they would market their own decoders and transponders instead of riding on the back of MyLaps like a tick on a dog!

EricW 05-31-2013 08:01 PM

And what happens in 6 months when mylaps releases a patch to disable your clone transponders again?

snoopyrc 05-31-2013 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Bob Malphurs (Post 12211280)
Just what we need....more bootleg transponders!

If mrt had any balls they would market their own decoders and transponders instead of riding on the back of MyLaps like a tick on a dog!

I wonder why MRT doesn't do that. I have split feelings about this. While I appreciate AMB for their innovation, I feel abused by their pricing. $100-120 for a transponder is not so terrible. Not great but not terrible. What mylaps is charging for decoders is unreal. For this reason MRT is often viewed as a Robin Hood in the market of scoring devices. If they would produce a decoder that was reasonably priced and compatible with their PT or a new PT. Then clubs could choose to use Mylaps or MRT and racers would most likely have more than one of each brand of transponder depending on what track they were visiting that day. If Mylaps really wanted to hurt MRT they should just sell their product to race clubs at a price that doesn't require a home equity line, and offer their transponders at about half of what they cost right now. If Mylaps PTs were about fifty bucks then less hardcore racers would buy them and hardcore racers would have a multiple PTs.

silveraider14 05-31-2013 09:48 PM

^+1 if they weren't 100 bucks a piece I would have one in all my cars. but now I just have one and switch it in between races

Cartman 06-01-2013 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by EricW (Post 12211305)
And what happens in 6 months when mylaps releases a patch to disable your clone transponders again?

All my laps did was tune rc4 to read a finer/cleaner signal. Mrt was not as "clean" so was filtered out. The new mrt pt is now as "clean" so they would need to redo thier own pt to knock out Mrts signal.

howardcano 06-01-2013 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by Bob Malphurs (Post 12211280)
If mrt had any balls they would market their own decoders...

I don't think gender has any bearing on the situation. There are many capable engineers, male or female.

But I do agree that MRT (and other companies) should make decoders. It's certainly not too difficult to do.

EricW 06-01-2013 04:37 AM

I guess people can spend the $75 on a clone that might still work 5 years from now or you can spend $90 on a transponder that will still work 10 years from now. I have one that old and it still works flawlessly.

Anyway good luck with the transponders.

Cartman 06-01-2013 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by EricW (Post 12212031)
I guess people can spend the $75 on a clone that might still work 5 years from now or you can spend $90 on a transponder that will still work 10 years from now. I have one that old and it still works flawlessly.

Anyway good luck with the transponders.

as above if mylaps fine tune anyomre they will block thier own pts signals.
im pleased you have a 10 year old amb, and hope you never want to replace the lead, get it repaired or have the number cloned by mylaps

Huske 06-03-2013 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by Cartman (Post 12212167)
as above if mylaps fine tune anyomre they will block thier own pts signals.
im pleased you have a 10 year old amb, and hope you never want to replace the lead, get it repaired or have the number cloned by mylaps

Cloning is not a problem, they have the car-id's now with the RC4.

I have 3 mylaps and 1 MRT. I'm thinking about this offer.
I can have 2 working MRT's for a 'low' price and can sell them without a loss in the end.

Cartman 06-03-2013 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by Huske (Post 12217722)
Cloning is not a problem, they have the car-id's now with the RC4.

I have 3 mylaps and 1 MRT. I'm thinking about this offer.
I can have 2 working MRT's for a 'low' price and can sell them without a loss in the end.

Yup but my laps car is pt's only work on rc4. They will not work on Rc 1,2,3

Huske 06-03-2013 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Cartman (Post 12217734)
Yup but my laps car is pt's only work on rc4. They will not work on Rc 1,2,3

Correct, but I have a different Mylpas RC4 hybride per class I'm driving...
This is because 2 competitions are driven on the same tracks.

Bob Malphurs 06-03-2013 05:55 AM

I never understood the purpose of cloning a PT.:confused: When AMB came out with the PT's theory was one unique number that no one else in the world has. Not to mention how this has helped the race program. Even if you sold that transponder the person that bought it still had a unique number. But since the "clones" hit the market I've read many posts of racers saying they get couple of clones then sell the original or sell the clones, etc. Chances are those who buy a used transponder are unaware they have a PT that is not unique!

At least a clone from MyLaps will have the 8th digit that will make it unique!

Sure MyLaps PT's cost a little more. But what in RC racing isn't over priced? Don't know how many times I've heard someone brag how much they spent on a car kit or a nitro engine or a purple anodized part that is broke or obsolete in 6 months!:eek: My 13 year old PT is still kicking and never missed a lap!:nod:

EricW 06-03-2013 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Bob Malphurs (Post 12218234)
I never understood the purpose of cloning a PT.:confused: When AMB came out with the PT's theory was one unique number that no one else in the world has. Not to mention how this has helped the race program. Even if you sold that transponder the person that bought it still had a unique number. But since the "clones" hit the market I've read many posts of racers saying they get couple of clones then sell the original or sell the clones, etc. Chances are those who buy a used transponder are unaware they have a PT that is not unique!

At least a clone from MyLaps will have the 8th digit that will make it unique!

Sure MyLaps PT's cost a little more. But what in RC racing isn't over priced? Don't know how many times I've heard someone brag how much they spent on a car kit or a nitro engine or a purple anodized part that is broke or obsolete in 6 months!:eek: My 13 year old PT is still kicking and never missed a lap!:nod:

+1

I've book marked this thread so in 4 years I can come back and bump it when the MRT clones start having problems after a MyLaps update.

Nothing in RC that you spend $100 on will last you 10+ years, it's a small investment to make considering what we spend on kits, radios and servos.

Mason 06-04-2013 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by EricW (Post 12218335)
+1

I've book marked this thread so in 4 years I can come back and bump it when the MRT clones start having problems after a MyLaps update.

Nothing in RC that you spend $100 on will last you 10+ years, it's a small investment to make considering what we spend on kits, radios and servos.

So you don't own an airtronics 94357?

ta_man 06-04-2013 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Bob Malphurs (Post 12218234)
I never understood the purpose of cloning a PT.:confused: When AMB came out with the PT's theory was one unique number that no one else in the world has. Not to mention how this has helped the race program. Even if you sold that transponder the person that bought it still had a unique number. But since the "clones" hit the market I've read many posts of racers saying they get couple of clones then sell the original or sell the clones, etc. Chances are those who buy a used transponder are unaware they have a PT that is not unique!

At least a clone from MyLaps will have the 8th digit that will make it unique!

Sure MyLaps PT's cost a little more. But what in RC racing isn't over priced? Don't know how many times I've heard someone brag how much they spent on a car kit or a nitro engine or a purple anodized part that is broke or obsolete in 6 months!:eek: My 13 year old PT is still kicking and never missed a lap!:nod:

The answer to that is simple: multiple transponders with the same number make it easier for a racer with more than one car.

I race at a club that runs lots of classes. Now that I am getting older I only run 5 classes a day (we only one qualifier before the main). In the past I have run as many as 7 classes in a day when we had 23 heats per round. For the past 3 years I have only had to remember two numbers for all those cars. That, and only that, is the reason I owned MRT transponders.

When our club upgraded to RC4 I sent my 9 MRT transponders in to get 9 pure RC4s. I picked out two numbers out of those 9 that were easy to remember, and got 3 (soon to be 6) CarID transponders. I sold 5, and will soon sell the remaining two of the 7 who's numbers I didn't "like." I sold them for $88 (the lowest price I found anwhere else for brand new ones) each, paying 92.50 (shipped) for the CarID transponders. I feel the $4.50 premium to get the CarIDs after selling the other RC4s is worth it to me to have less numbers to remember.

If that's hard for you to understand, maybe it is because you have a photographic memory.

If AMB had offered multiple transponders with the same number before MRT did, I would not have bought the MRTs. MRT offered a service AMB refused to offer at that time.

neospud 06-04-2013 01:58 PM

Whats the deal with the trade-in? Why would i send in a perfectly good AMB plus extra cash to get a clone?

ta_man 06-04-2013 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by neospud (Post 12223613)
Whats the deal with the trade-in? Why would i send in a perfectly good AMB plus extra cash to get a clone?

People with "perfectly good" AMBs might not want to do this, but if you had one that has become unusable with frayed wires or the like, it might be a good thing to do.

JimmyG 06-04-2013 03:42 PM

Most people (not everybody) have smart phones or simple flip phones. You can store your transponder numbers in your phone. Very simple and easy, and don't have to remember. There are app's for smart phones to store your setups and those also have areas to store your PT numbers.

I did have some MRT transponders, but no longer have them. I sent them in for RC4's. I will not buy MRT anymore. AMB is doing everything they can to protect their investment, and I really don't want to go threw the hassle of this happening to me again.

Dave H 06-04-2013 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 12223249)
The answer to that is simple: multiple transponders with the same number make it easier for a racer with more than one car.

I race at a club that runs lots of classes. Now that I am getting older I only run 5 classes a day (we only one qualifier before the main). In the past I have run as many as 7 classes in a day when we had 23 heats per round. For the past 3 years I have only had to remember two numbers for all those cars. That, and only that, is the reason I owned MRT transponders.

When our club upgraded to RC4 I sent my 9 MRT transponders in to get 9 pure RC4s. I picked out two numbers out of those 9 that were easy to remember, and got 3 (soon to be 6) CarID transponders. I sold 5, and will soon sell the remaining two of the 7 who's numbers I didn't "like." I sold them for $88 (the lowest price I found anwhere else for brand new ones) each, paying 92.50 (shipped) for the CarID transponders. I feel the $4.50 premium to get the CarIDs after selling the other RC4s is worth it to me to have less numbers to remember.

If that's hard for you to understand, maybe it is because you have a photographic memory.

If AMB had offered multiple transponders with the same number before MRT did, I would not have bought the MRTs. MRT offered a service AMB refused to offer at that time.

Does your club track not keep your numbers in their system? Don't get me wrong, I get a simplified number setup would be less hassle no doubt. But I run at a lot of tracks with multiple cars, other than the first time at a given track the numbers are rarely needed. For when they are I keep them in my phone too like Jimmy mentioned.

Dave H 06-04-2013 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by neospud (Post 12223613)
Whats the deal with the trade-in? Why would i send in a perfectly good AMB plus extra cash to get a clone?

This thread is mainly about updating MRT transponders that won't reliably work with the new AMB decoder track system, to a newer MRT that will.

I agree there is little need to send in a perfectly good AMB, as those still work on all decoders. Well at least for now, some are concerned about future AMB upgrades, and might take the opportunity to update at reduced cost, just in case. Or perhaps for damage like ta man mentioned.

ta_man 06-04-2013 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by JimmyG (Post 12223896)
Most people (not everybody) have smart phones or simple flip phones. You can store your transponder numbers in your phone. Very simple and easy, and don't have to remember. There are app's for smart phones to store your setups and those also have areas to store your PT numbers.

I did have some MRT transponders, but no longer have them. I sent them in for RC4's. I will not buy MRT anymore. AMB is doing everything they can to protect their investment, and I really don't want to go threw the hassle of this happening to me again.

With only two primary numbers I did need to worry about a phone as a crutch.


Originally Posted by Dave H (Post 12223960)
Does your club track not keep your numbers in their system? Don't get me wrong, I get a simplified number setup would be less hassle no doubt. But I run at a lot of tracks with multiple cars, other than the first time at a given track the numbers are rarely needed. For when they are I keep them in my phone too like Jimmy mentioned.

Yes the track does, It was still easier for me to have, for the most part, only two numbers (I have a few other non-cloned AMBs for certain cars).

Funny story:

For years, a guy named Wayne handled the computer at our track. 3 years ago he help start another track and is race director there. I took over the computer duties at my track and since then have never had to fill out a reg form for myself because I just entered the stuff in the computer directly.

Recently I went to his track for a race. Since it was so long since I had to fill out a form for myself, I neglected to put my name on it.:lol: But Wayne recognized that the entry sheet was mine by the transponder numbers on it.:ha:

kawi650 07-19-2013 07:15 AM

Has anyone bought one of the new MRT transponders yet? It's been a few months since the original post, is anyone using them?

I know MRT isn't doing themselves any favors by not advertising this update more.

Cartman 07-19-2013 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by kawi650 (Post 12362897)
Has anyone bought one of the new MRT transponders yet? It's been a few months since the original post, is anyone using them?

I know MRT isn't doing themselves any favors by not advertising this update more.

Yup lots in the uk have them, with no problems at all, I have 7 all with the same number and they all do something you with rc4 and cloned mylaps carnt do, they work on any system rc2/3/4, I can replace the wires and send them for repair. Mylaps don't do either of those.
As their sidnal is near identical , mylaps will need to wipe out their own bug to block mrt.

smitty2802 07-20-2013 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by Cartman (Post 12363234)
Yup lots in the uk have them, with no problems at all, I have 7 all with the same number and they all do something you with rc4 and cloned mylaps carnt do, they work on any system rc2/3/4, I can replace the wires and send them for repair. Mylaps don't do either of those.
As their sidnal is near identical , mylaps will need to wipe out their own bug to block mrt.

This is why I bought an mrt. They will fix my transponder. I have 2 amb's that the wires need fixed and one doesn't work and the other one misses so I can't really say it works. So there's $200 down the drain and I can't use them. So, I bought an mrt bc it was cheaper and it's worked this whole time until amb changed their system. So my perfectly working mrt now doesn't work. So, I'll be sending in my transponders soon and get new Mrt's now.

Thanks,
DC

kawi650 07-24-2013 12:04 PM

Stormer Hobbies has the new transponders listed on their site (not in stock yet), does anyone know other places that are going to sell them in the US?

Cartman 07-24-2013 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Bob Malphurs (Post 12218234)

At least a clone from MyLaps will have the 8th digit that will make it unique!

Sure MyLaps PT's cost a little more

Yup unique alright, in the fact they will only work on rc4
I have 8 MRT pts with the same number, of which I solely own. Which will happily work on all amb systems.....far cheaper than 8 amb/mylaps would cost me that I could only use on rc4

Bob-Stormer 08-01-2013 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by kawi650 (Post 12378937)
Stormer Hobbies has the new transponders listed on their site (not in stock yet), does anyone know other places that are going to sell them in the US?

Looks like the new MRT (ns) transponders showed up today! :)

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...=ns&pn=MRT2000

.
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HB Moose 08-06-2013 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by kawi650 (Post 12362897)
Has anyone bought one of the new MRT transponders yet? It's been a few months since the original post, is anyone using them?

I know MRT isn't doing themselves any favors by not advertising this update more.

My new ones are working fine on both RC3 and RC4 systems

EricW 08-06-2013 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Mason (Post 12223019)
So you don't own an airtronics 94357?

If I offered you a clone of the 94357 at half the cost would you buy it from me or stick with the real thing?

billdelong 08-07-2013 08:17 PM

My StormerHobbies MRT came in the mail today, just in time for Wed night racing and it worked flawlessly at our local tracks RC4 system.

I happen to have a couple older MRT's that I'd like to upgrade but I'm a little confused with the OP.

Can I simply trade both of them in straight up, or must I double up my count?

Do I need to pay £49 to upgrade both of my old MRT's or does that £49 get me 4 in exchange for my 2, or do I need to pay £98 to get 4 back... so confusing :(

Cartman 08-07-2013 11:24 PM

You pay £49 to trade one in and get two back, or £98 to trade two in and get 4 back.

billdelong 08-08-2013 07:18 AM

ok thanks for clarification :)

IntegraMark 08-09-2013 08:36 AM

I e-mailed MRT regarding the trade-in deal but I received no response. How do we go abouts setting up the trade-in deal?

billdelong 08-09-2013 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by IntegraMark (Post 12430186)
I e-mailed MRT regarding the trade-in deal but I received no response. How do we go abouts setting up the trade-in deal?

I sent an email to "[email protected]" yesterday, they just replied back to me this morning with a "Reference Number" to place on the order form. I plan to ship out my PTX's next week.

In my case, I will send them 2 old PTX's + $64(x2) + $15 S/H for a total of $143 and will get 4 PTX's back.

Once they receive my old PTX's, they will email me instructions for making a PayPal payment.

IntegraMark 08-09-2013 10:06 AM

wtf? i sent one last week, got a confirmation and got no response. I'm going to try again.

billdelong 08-09-2013 10:23 AM

which email did you send it to?

I sent an email last week to "[email protected]", to which I got a confirmation as well, but still no reply back yet. I'm thinking they put a priority on the sales account over the info account.

IntegraMark 08-09-2013 10:30 AM

i sent mine to [email protected].

I'm going to forward it to the info one and see if i get a real reply.


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