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marek_k 09-17-2013 01:03 AM

@Randy_Pike - how about timing setting I asked on page 75? Can you explain for me. Thanks

Djameso 09-17-2013 07:41 AM

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Hey Randy,

I e-mailed you a couple of weeks ago about my EB48 that I use for a Basher/Tricks buggy, well I also have the EB48.2 which I had set up for racing.
You had suggested the Tekin 2250kv for my basher buggy and to get the RX8 GEN2 T8 1900kv Buggy combo for racing, so I decided first to get the 1900kv for my EB48.2 racer and figured I would try it out in my basher buggy to see how it would do with the tricks.

A few pages back a guys reaction to his new Tekin setup was wow! Well I have to agree with him and say the same. WOW!!!!!!!!!! I am impressed, this Tekin combo actually did better with the tricks I like to do and is right there if not more power and stayed much cooler compared to the mamba monster 2200kv combo that I did have in there. Another huge advantage to the Tekin setup is I lost 5.22oz which is 1/3 of a pound, that's a lot of weight. Thanks Tekin for the great product!

Thank you Randy for being there for the costumers and answering all the questions we have!

I attached a pic and yes that is strait up & down and sideways. This is the farthest sideways I have gotten with landing perfect!

Randy_Pike 09-17-2013 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by marek_k (Post 12549628)
I had same problem as MrMorninwood. After a month ESC showed internal short (Leds 1,2,6and 7) with gen1 motor. After disconnecting the motor, esc seemed OK but there was no chime anymore. Motor was not over geared or something. Reset did not help, because as soon as I hit throttle it went back to that error(with little smoke, dont know whether it was from motor or esc). So its on warranty repair right now. I choose tekin over castle because of reliability, so I am little disappointed.

According to manual timing of gen2 ESC can be set to 7 profiles and default should be 1 - no timing. When my ESC was set to defaults, timing was set to profile 3 or 4. Is that normal? I have tried to understand "timing", found some articles, but I am not really sure what it does still. I want my motor to run as cool as possible, I set it to TP1 0*timing advance profile. Is that right?

The default profile is TP1 which on the Rx8 does have 10 timing advance which is only 3 degrees of actual timing.

More timing means more kv out of the motor, in general.

Rx8 timing profile as follows:

TP1: 10* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP2: 27* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP3: 45* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP4: 63* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP5: 80* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016

Casper 09-17-2013 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Purdue Engineer (Post 12549853)
Hay Randy or others,
What's the best way to mount the esc to the chassis? I have used padded servo tape and other double sided tape but once dirt gets in there around the bottom of the esc, it eventually comes off. After it comes off I usually put a bead of shoe goo around the bottom. Should I just keep doing that or is there a better way.

I have seen people use some really hard plastic Velcro from Walmart. I don't know if that works or not.

Thanks guys

If you get a good clean surface to mount to you should not get dirt between mounting surfaces once the tape is applied. For these RX8 applications I recommend double pieces of tape. Lots of good ones out there. MIP makes some great tape but I have been using the 3M 5lb tape from Home Depot lately and it is working great.


Originally Posted by marek_k (Post 12552909)
@Randy_Pike - how about timing setting I asked on page 75? Can you explain for me. Thanks

Not Randy but timing in the ESC comes on as a function of RPM. So as the motor ramps up the ESC adds timing to the motor in how it fires the poles. The amount of timing and at what RPM the ramp up starts and ends is up to the settings you put into the ESC. I may be wrong on this so Randy will correct me but I think the defaults for onboard timing is 5 deg added per level (1 is zero, 2 is 5, 3 is 10 etc) with start RPM of 5000 end RPM of 20000. Timing advance on the RX8 is not quite as powerful as on the RS for "Boost" but will have an effect on the motor. Adding boost will add motor heat and cause more strain on your batteries as well so use caution when adding timing by keeping an eye on motor and battery temps.

marek_k 09-17-2013 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Randy_Pike (Post 12553842)
The default profile is TP1 which on the Rx8 does have 10 timing advance which is only 3 degrees of actual timing.

More timing means more kv out of the motor, in general.

Rx8 timing profile as follows:

TP1: 10* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP2: 27* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP3: 45* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP4: 63* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP5: 80* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016

Hmm, but manual says
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The profiles are as below:
TP1: 0* Timing Advance
TP2: 20* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP3: 40* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP4: 60* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP5: 80* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP6: Custom 1 - Programmable via HotWire
TP7: Custom 2 - Programmable via HotWire


Casper 09-17-2013 10:12 AM

Your right. I got boost and timing mixed up. I forgot timing advance is in % of 30 deg. Boost is actual deg of timing.

Go with what Randy said. He has the most accurate answer. I never use the onboard settings as I just hook the ESC up to my hotwire. :o

ChuckTee 09-17-2013 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by marek_k (Post 12553868)
Hmm, but manual says
Code:

The profiles are as below:
TP1: 0* Timing Advance
TP2: 20* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP3: 40* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP4: 60* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP5: 80* Timing Advance / RPM Range 5443-20,016
TP6: Custom 1 - Programmable via HotWire
TP7: Custom 2 - Programmable via HotWire


I am interested and watching, would like to see the answer to this.

TY@TEAMTEKIN 09-17-2013 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by ChuckTee (Post 12553974)
I am interested and watching, would like to see the answer to this.

I hardly ever run timing. Why? It's a marginal performance gain at best and when too much is used, you just get excess heat and not any extra power on tap. I run 0 almost always now with a 1900, it has plenty of power in itself.

4-poles don't respond to timing like 2-pole motors, plus the Timing Advance is much more mild than Boost. Just gear appropriately and run it. I hardly ever change my gearing.

Randy_Pike 09-17-2013 10:24 AM

@Djameso Thanks for the kind words. Our entire team is here to help, anytime we can. Glad to see you enjoying your Tekin equipment, sideways ;)

Djameso 09-17-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Randy_Pike (Post 12553991)
@Djameso Thanks for the kind words. Our entire team is here to help, anytime we can. Glad to see you enjoying your Tekin equipment, sideways ;)

Your welcome,

You guys ever think about making things water proof?

I've seen on here that you shouldn't have the wires come off the back of the motor. What if they are securely fastened to the back of the motor? I attached a pic of what I did.

Integra 09-17-2013 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Djameso (Post 12554028)
Your welcome,

You guys ever think about making things water proof?

I've seen on here that you shouldn't have the wires come off the back of the motor. What if they are securely fastened to the back of the motor? I attached a pic of what I did.



Crushing the wires like that isn't something I would recommend.

Give it some more slack and it will be fine.

Djameso 09-17-2013 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Integra (Post 12554186)
Crushing the wires like that isn't something I would recommend.

Give it some more slack and it will be fine.

Ya I noticed that when I was taking the picture.
I fixed it so they're secure but not crushed.

marek_k 09-18-2013 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Djameso (Post 12554028)
Your welcome,

I've seen on here that you shouldn't have the wires come off the back of the motor. What if they are securely fastened to the back of the motor? .

What do you mean, you shouldn't have the wires come off the back of the motor? Why and how should they be?

Djameso 09-18-2013 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by marek_k (Post 12554422)
What do you mean, you shouldn't have the wires come off the back of the motor? Why and how should they be?

When the wires come off the back of the motor it puts stress on the tabs and can break or crack the solder where the tabs are connected to circuit board inside the motor.

Djameso 09-18-2013 01:12 PM

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The wires should come off towards the front Like the pics I attached.

This is what I read, maybe someone can confirm this.


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