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maeg 01-13-2014 12:24 AM

Hello to all you guys!
pa3exv nice job.
Is it possible to get original files, not jpegs, to build those transponders and try them with Payalneg's decoder?

Payalneg 03-21-2014 07:35 AM

Just my development clone of mrt transponder. Works with mylaps rc4. Size 19x21mm. http://cs608521.vk.me/v608521346/38a5/ns1UaQkx4M4.jpg

edeca 03-21-2014 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Payalneg (Post 13117303)
Just my development clone of mrt transponder. Works with mylaps rc4. Size 19x21mm.

Awesome work Paypalneg! I've been working on an alternate input amplifier for my decoder, to be used with a loop that has a 470R resistor. More news in the decoder thread if I have success (it is very nearly done).

Payalneg 03-22-2014 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by edeca (Post 13118373)
Awesome work Paypalneg! I've been working on an alternate input amplifier for my decoder, to be used with a loop that has a 470R resistor. More news in the decoder thread if I have success (it is very nearly done).

Yeap,
http://cs14102.vk.me/c617617/v617617...WSGsl61vTo.jpg
and two amplifiers with filters in decoder. This box is compatable with amb decoder :rolleyes:

edeca 03-22-2014 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by Payalneg (Post 13119515)
Yeap,
and two amplifiers with filters in decoder. This box is compatable with amb decoder :rolleyes:

Do you have a schematic? I can see a custom wound balun and I assume the capacitors are for filtering, but I don't see any amplification?

What sort of signal level do you get from yours? And how do you amplify it afterward? I am simply using opamps and a comparator now to turn the signal back into a digital pulse train.

My first attempt was a custom winding on a binocular core, this worked OK but wasn't amazing:

http://i.imgur.com/4YFqzbk.jpg

The newest one works much better and uses a Mini-Circuits transformer as a balun:

http://i.imgur.com/0nOnqX0.jpg

Unfortunately with a 470R resistor in the loop the second one is targeted at a 52R impedance system (the balun is 1:9) but that doesn't matter as I'm not attempting compatibility with AMB.

rc-demon 04-17-2014 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by howardcano (Post 11583072)
The transponder is compatible with AMB, just like the MRT transponders.

The decoder, should I complete it, would also be compatible with MRT and AMB transponders (the ones currently used, not the new AMBs that are causing the ruckus.) One difference is that the decoder would show different numbers than are printed on the AMB transponders, since I don't know the data encryption format. But that is of no significance to the user, as each would still show a unique number that can be associated to a individual car/driver.

Bingo!

This is exactly what is needed a decoder compatible with AMB & MRT transponders.

If a less expensive decoder was available and with compatible transponders then that would make switch over easier for track owners.

So you say to have tested with amb then you mean rc2 & rc3 not the new my lalps rc4?

howardcano 04-17-2014 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by rc-demon (Post 13192998)
Bingo!

This is exactly what is needed a decoder compatible with AMB & MRT transponders.

If a less expensive decoder was available and with compatible transponders then that would make switch over easier for track owners.

So you say to have tested with amb then you mean rc2 & rc3 not the new my lalps rc4?

Compatible devices for the decoder are in the decoder thread, in this post of the decoder specs:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/12222187-post251.html

luluFRA 04-23-2014 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by Payalneg (Post 13117303)
Just my development clone of mrt transponder. Works with mylaps rc4. Size 19x21mm. http://cs608521.vk.me/v608521346/38a5/ns1UaQkx4M4.jpg

It's not the howard design?
you use an attiny25 and 20MHz oscillator ?
only 2 layers ?

Payalneg 04-25-2014 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by luluFRA (Post 13207680)
It's not the howard design?
you use an attiny25 and 20MHz oscillator ?
only 2 layers ?

attiny25 with 20mhz crystal and 4 layers pcb.

pitas 04-25-2014 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by Payalneg (Post 13212587)
attiny25 with 20mhz crystal and 4 layers pcb.

Does your transponder work with RC4 decoder?

Any chance you share your design with us?

There are some great work done on this forum ;)

Regards.

luluFRA 04-25-2014 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by Payalneg (Post 13212587)
attiny25 with 20mhz crystal and 4 layers pcb.

ok thanks, but it's not the same design like this link ?

http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...ansponder.html

thanks.

Payalneg 04-25-2014 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by pitas (Post 13212612)
Does your transponder work with RC4 decoder?

Any chance you share your design with us?

There are some great work done on this forum ;)

Regards.

Its works with rc4 decoder. Sorry, no design.

luluFRA 04-25-2014 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by Payalneg (Post 13119515)
Yeap,
http://cs14102.vk.me/c617617/v617617...WSGsl61vTo.jpg
and two amplifiers with filters in decoder. This box is compatable with amb decoder :rolleyes:

Great job !
Can you share schematic ?

kinetisist 04-25-2014 09:04 AM

I would love to build my own mylaps hybrid compatible transponder ... is there a kit available?

pitas 04-25-2014 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by kinetisist (Post 13213212)
I would love to build my own mylaps hybrid compatible transponder ... is there a kit available?

+1


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