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cjtamu 04-15-2011 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by tonyv2382 (Post 8968445)
Hey guys just picked up an LPF GT2.0 carbon esc for my new losi 22. I just didnt feel like spending 200+ on another brand and Ive heard great things about SP. Now can this version be upgraded in terms of software? And how many drive profiles does it have? Ive had the best luck with LRP in the past and Im hoping to have the same smoothness here. Plus the smaller footprint of this esc will be good because theres not much room under the shell on the car. very tight space.

Any other feedback is good to hear, Im new to the brand.

Same thing I have in my B4, and yes it's adjustable, and the software can be changed/upgraded. Which software is best depends on what application, what motor, track rules, etc. Not all of the software versions have boost/turbo, etc. but if you're running lots of motor you don't need it. Still learning myself, 1/10 flashlight has been so dead here the last 5 years or so that I was just running brushed stuff the couple times a year I actually raced 1/10. You'll love the feel of the SP. As smooth or smoother than the LRP QC's and GM's I used to run, and you can use the programming to change the feel to suit you.

JP.R 04-15-2011 10:47 AM

Hey Guys,

JP checking in here. Please feel free to PM me or post on the forum any questions you might have.

My setups from the JC race that are on the website is a good starting point. You might want to turn the punch down a couple levels and the drag brake though, the track was SUPER high bite so all the punch and drag brake was manageable.

I will try and make a good overall track condition setup this weekend.

Thanks!!

ifuonlyknew 04-15-2011 02:46 PM

I am running the 1212 stock software and I was wondering what a good starting point was on the esc settings and gear ratio for an AE T4 with a Novak Velociti 13.5. The track is indoor, med to high bite, lap times in the 17 second range. Timing is allowed.

Thanks,
Ifuonlyknew

kwiksi 04-15-2011 06:48 PM

You could start with the default settings. They seem to be middle of the road.
I would start at
9-8
12-7
13-3
14-5
15-2
Those settings are bit dialed down from what I used with SP17.5 v3. I swore I read somewhere the Novaks have alot of physical timing out the factory. So you may want to dail some back.
Maybe somene else can add to this.
Gearing 84/22-21?
Keep eye on motor temps.:tire:

Dave H 04-15-2011 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by tonyv2382 (Post 8968445)
Hey guys just picked up an LPF GT2.0 carbon esc for my new losi 22. I just didnt feel like spending 200+ on another brand and Ive heard great things about SP. Now can this version be upgraded in terms of software? And how many drive profiles does it have? Ive had the best luck with LRP in the past and Im hoping to have the same smoothness here. Plus the smaller footprint of this esc will be good because theres not much room under the shell on the car. very tight space.

Any other feedback is good to hear, Im new to the brand.

It doesn’t have overall profiles in the sense that I think you asking about, rather several parameters that can be adjusted independently. Lots of adjustability for sure.

Yes, you can change software/firmware, you do need the optional LCD programmer:

http://www.speedpassion.net/en/produ...=SPLCD01&c=OPT

The latest V1.35 firmware package is under the download tab:

http://www.speedpassion.net/en/produ...02PROscb&c=ESC

Note there is a mod version of the boost software, and a no timing (aka blinky) version too in there.

Video on updating (it’s the last one):

http://www.speedpassion.net/en/video.asp

Many load it twice just to be sure, there have been reports of it not updating correctly/completely on the first pass, although that issue may be fixed, I’m not sure.

Redo the ESC to radio calibration after changing software. And then after turn up the throttle EPA some, there have been cases of radio drift causing the supercharger deal to not engage, it needs full throttle to be completely open and held.

Some setups:

http://www.speedpassion.net/en/produ...02PROscb&c=ESC

Dave H 04-15-2011 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by clintscreations (Post 8966783)
i use nothing but 205 in all my cars
xxxt-cr with 6.5 v3
xxx-cr with 8.5 v3
xxx-sct with 7.5 v3
custom built sprint car with 7.5 v2

i have an extra speedo that i use to test all the software updates
but the boost software just never feels right for me..as our track has like 60ft straight and it seems to always come on too late for my taste

we do have a large outdoor offroad that im going to load the newest SW in and go play.....so my feelings may change on booooooooooooost

Yeah, the ‘stock’ boost firmware isn’t really intended for those motors. Have you tried the mod boost? (528mod if I remember) Did you gear down any when you tried boost (either one)?

ilanstylz 04-15-2011 11:13 PM

Hi everyone, I'm stoked I found this thread.... I just recently bought the Speed Passion Silver Arrow 1/8 V2.0 ESC and Cirtix 2200kv Brushless motor combo for my RC8..... I'm new to the electric scene (started off with nitro) so I was wondering what is a good setup for this and what kind of gearing should I use?

Also is the esc upgradeable and what all do I need to do so? Any tips or info. etc would be greatly appreciated... Thanks

Solara 04-16-2011 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by ilanstylz (Post 8972091)
Hi everyone, I'm stoked I found this thread.... I just recently bought the Speed Passion Silver Arrow 1/8 V2.0 ESC and Cirtix 2200kv Brushless motor combo for my RC8..... I'm new to the electric scene (started off with nitro) so I was wondering what is a good setup for this and what kind of gearing should I use?

Also is the esc upgradeable and what all do I need to do so? Any tips or info. etc would be greatly appreciated... Thanks

In the future, you can always check out Speed Passion website for ESC setup. I will upload some SAII ESC setup this weekend and post it up there...

ESC is updatable, once we have the need for better software, we will release it to the public free of charge. But you do need the LCD Programmer box to connect the ESC to computer in order to do adjustment and future software/firmware update.

http://www.speedpassion.net/us/produ...=SPLCD01&c=OPT

Here is our driver setup for SAII with 2200 slotless motor on Losi 8ight II

Final drive = 11.3 to 11.8
Fan on motor if possible.
Speed Power 4S Lipo

Running Mode: Forward with brake (always recommand use mechanical braking with braking servo)
Drag Brake Force: 0% (or 5% the most)
Lipo cut off: 3.0V per Cell
DRRS: Level 5
Max Brake Force: 75%
Max Reverse Force: 25%
Initial Brake Force: 0%
Neutral Range: 6%
AMTS Timing: 0*
Overheat protection: Disable
Motor rotation: CCW (depends on your car too)
Lipo cells: Auto Calculate

Let us know the result....thanks and good luck.

clintscreations 04-16-2011 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Dave H (Post 8972073)
Yeah, the ‘stock’ boost firmware isn’t really intended for those motors. Have you tried the mod boost? (528mod if I remember) Did you gear down any when you tried boost (either one)?

When I mess with boost I run either 10.5 or 13.5
Have 528mod loaded in one of my speedos but have not been able to get to a track and try it.....when I tried boost I geared way down....and added boost and gear to try to get the feel I'm lookin for........its nice to have a private test day at the track

ilanstylz 04-16-2011 10:17 AM

Thanks for the reply, I will def. try that setup and be on the lookout for the SAII setups on the site...

Just a few other questions, the mechanical braking servo I never heard of (sorry for the ignorance), have a link of ones your talking about?

And is there a benefit to disabling the motor heat detection? I would love to put a fan on my motor but I am using the tekno conversion and the way the motor mount is setup I am unable to do so, is it a must to add the fan?

And as far as the lcd program box it looks like you guys are out of stock, do you know when you'll possible have them back in stock? Thanks

rctechuser015851 04-16-2011 10:24 AM

Im not messing with any software when I install it. Im just going to run it as is for now. I know its got adjustability but Im hoping the throttle response is smooth as its going into a 2wd buggy, and smoothness is everything on those vehicles

Dave H 04-16-2011 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by ilanstylz (Post 8973620)
...
Just a few other questions, the mechanical braking servo I never heard of (sorry for the ignorance), have a link of ones your talking about?
.....

Mechanical brakes like a nitro has. Instead of using the ESC and motor to provide the brakes like a typical electric RC does. Reduces the load and heat on both.

Eastcider 04-16-2011 01:25 PM

hey guys ...
just curious if thier is any way of getting a stock club spec esc to stop working in reveres? atm im running it sensorless so i can swap wires an it has a slight cog ... any ideas ... on how to swap it ?

Rob Landers

ilanstylz 04-16-2011 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Dave H (Post 8974102)
Mechanical brakes like a nitro has. Instead of using the ESC and motor to provide the brakes like a typical electric RC does. Reduces the load and heat on both.

Oh ok lol , yeah that makes alot of sense, damn and I just took all the parts off my rc8 for the mechanical brakes.. Its ok I'll put them back on...

kwiksi 04-16-2011 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Eastcider (Post 8974169)
hey guys ...
just curious if thier is any way of getting a stock club spec esc to stop working in reveres? atm im running it sensorless so i can swap wires an it has a slight cog ... any ideas ... on how to swap it ?

Rob Landers

Rob
Do you have the program card? If so hook it up and under programmable value #2 which is Running mode. Select option #1 Forward w/brake (no reverse").
Why are you running sensorless? No advantage there.
Manual is below.
http://www.speedpassion.net/uploadfi...ay27th2010.pdf


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