Tekin Hotwire programming guide?
#16
#18
I'll chime in on this as well. I own multiple RX8's and love them. Randy and Jim are top notch with their support, but I found this thread because I can find very little information about programming it.
It's not intuitive like Castle's and there are features that I can't seem to change. I don't understand what the max RPM is. I have 2 different KV T8's but they show the same maximum rpm. Even if I wanted to change that I don't see a way to do that.
Someone commented on things changing and just confusing people. That statement is very confusing as any software out there for anything changes. Most help is online now. So having a manual pdf out there online that could be changed would behoove Tekin greatly.
Things I would like explained or would like to see in future software release.
Lose the GUI, keep it simple.
Better battery cut-off settings. You cannot set it. You only have a choice of 1s, 2s, etc. What voltage per cell is that cutting off? I would like to choose 3.3v, 3.4v. etc.
A numerical throttle and punch control.
Power limiter - even a 25%, 50%, 75% option would work.
Timing - please explain what is safe? And pros vs cons. Can you damage the motor or ESC with these options?
Something to indicate which ESC I am plugged into (for multiple esc's)
Something to show that the sensor wire is plugged in and all sensors are working. (I know the lights in the esc show that, but I would like to see something in the Hotwire)
Some kind of graph viewer for the data like Castle has.
I am sure there are things I am leaving out, but bottom line a manual that I can hold in my hand and reference is preferred. As mentioned we can't take Randy to the track, and I hate asking noob questions and then waiting and hoping for an answer.
Tekin RULES, but make it better!
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It's not intuitive like Castle's and there are features that I can't seem to change. I don't understand what the max RPM is. I have 2 different KV T8's but they show the same maximum rpm. Even if I wanted to change that I don't see a way to do that.
Someone commented on things changing and just confusing people. That statement is very confusing as any software out there for anything changes. Most help is online now. So having a manual pdf out there online that could be changed would behoove Tekin greatly.
Things I would like explained or would like to see in future software release.
Lose the GUI, keep it simple.
Better battery cut-off settings. You cannot set it. You only have a choice of 1s, 2s, etc. What voltage per cell is that cutting off? I would like to choose 3.3v, 3.4v. etc.
A numerical throttle and punch control.
Power limiter - even a 25%, 50%, 75% option would work.
Timing - please explain what is safe? And pros vs cons. Can you damage the motor or ESC with these options?
Something to indicate which ESC I am plugged into (for multiple esc's)
Something to show that the sensor wire is plugged in and all sensors are working. (I know the lights in the esc show that, but I would like to see something in the Hotwire)
Some kind of graph viewer for the data like Castle has.
I am sure there are things I am leaving out, but bottom line a manual that I can hold in my hand and reference is preferred. As mentioned we can't take Randy to the track, and I hate asking noob questions and then waiting and hoping for an answer.
Tekin RULES, but make it better!
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#21
I'll chime in on this as well. I own multiple RX8's and love them. Randy and Jim are top notch with their support, but I found this thread because I can find very little information about programming it.
It's not intuitive like Castle's and there are features that I can't seem to change. I don't understand what the max RPM is. I have 2 different KV T8's but they show the same maximum rpm. Even if I wanted to change that I don't see a way to do that.
Someone commented on things changing and just confusing people. That statement is very confusing as any software out there for anything changes. Most help is online now. So having a manual pdf out there online that could be changed would behoove Tekin greatly.
Things I would like explained or would like to see in future software release.
Lose the GUI, keep it simple.
Wanna program your ESC with the command line? :-) The GUI is fine
Better battery cut-off settings. You cannot set it. You only have a choice of 1s, 2s, etc. What voltage per cell is that cutting off? I would like to choose 3.3v, 3.4v. etc.
You can set your own voltage... Just put the slider to the top and you can set for example 14.2V for a 4cell lipo
A numerical throttle and punch control.
What do think the current limiter is?
Power limiter - even a 25%, 50%, 75% option would work.
Change your EPA in the radio if you car is too fast or gear it to the track. Set the current limiter good if you have too much wheelspin
Timing - please explain what is safe? And pros vs cons. Can you damage the motor or ESC with these options?
Read the update PDF of Vegas 208. It's on Tekins website. Don't go above 50 timing. I recommend not more than 33 tho. http://www.teamtekin.com/hotwire/veg...ease-notes.pdf
Something to indicate which ESC I am plugged into (for multiple esc's)
???? Plug no more than 1 ESC in your PC and you're fine
Something to show that the sensor wire is plugged in and all sensors are working. (I know the lights in the esc show that, but I would like to see something in the Hotwire)
I agree
Some kind of graph viewer for the data like Castle has.
Castle has this only in the HV ESC. Not the normal MMM and MM
I am sure there are things I am leaving out, but bottom line a manual that I can hold in my hand and reference is preferred. As mentioned we can't take Randy to the track, and I hate asking noob questions and then waiting and hoping for an answer.
Tekin RULES, but make it better!
*
It's not intuitive like Castle's and there are features that I can't seem to change. I don't understand what the max RPM is. I have 2 different KV T8's but they show the same maximum rpm. Even if I wanted to change that I don't see a way to do that.
Someone commented on things changing and just confusing people. That statement is very confusing as any software out there for anything changes. Most help is online now. So having a manual pdf out there online that could be changed would behoove Tekin greatly.
Things I would like explained or would like to see in future software release.
Lose the GUI, keep it simple.
Wanna program your ESC with the command line? :-) The GUI is fine
Better battery cut-off settings. You cannot set it. You only have a choice of 1s, 2s, etc. What voltage per cell is that cutting off? I would like to choose 3.3v, 3.4v. etc.
You can set your own voltage... Just put the slider to the top and you can set for example 14.2V for a 4cell lipo
A numerical throttle and punch control.
What do think the current limiter is?
Power limiter - even a 25%, 50%, 75% option would work.
Change your EPA in the radio if you car is too fast or gear it to the track. Set the current limiter good if you have too much wheelspin
Timing - please explain what is safe? And pros vs cons. Can you damage the motor or ESC with these options?
Read the update PDF of Vegas 208. It's on Tekins website. Don't go above 50 timing. I recommend not more than 33 tho. http://www.teamtekin.com/hotwire/veg...ease-notes.pdf
Something to indicate which ESC I am plugged into (for multiple esc's)
???? Plug no more than 1 ESC in your PC and you're fine
Something to show that the sensor wire is plugged in and all sensors are working. (I know the lights in the esc show that, but I would like to see something in the Hotwire)
I agree
Some kind of graph viewer for the data like Castle has.
Castle has this only in the HV ESC. Not the normal MMM and MM
I am sure there are things I am leaving out, but bottom line a manual that I can hold in my hand and reference is preferred. As mentioned we can't take Randy to the track, and I hate asking noob questions and then waiting and hoping for an answer.
Tekin RULES, but make it better!
*
#22
Thanks morgoth, some of that does help.
As far as the GUI, don't be silly, I mean something less of an eye sore and is not buggy like a windows standard. Like Castle.
Thanks for the cut-off advice, I was not aware of that.
Thanks for the timing info.
I have more than one RX8, what do you mean only plug 1 into a PC? I would like to be able to configure all of them and know which one I am currently plugged into.
And the graph viewer comment was not a Castle vs Tekin argument, just something I would like to see.
Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. This shows why they need something.
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As far as the GUI, don't be silly, I mean something less of an eye sore and is not buggy like a windows standard. Like Castle.
Thanks for the cut-off advice, I was not aware of that.
Thanks for the timing info.
I have more than one RX8, what do you mean only plug 1 into a PC? I would like to be able to configure all of them and know which one I am currently plugged into.
And the graph viewer comment was not a Castle vs Tekin argument, just something I would like to see.
Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. This shows why they need something.
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#23
We can change all of that. I will look into the suggestions and pass them along.
We've already discussed a "per cell" voltage adjustment that the user can set. This would be say 3.2v per cell and this would then be affected by the onboard interface as well. So 4 led's at 3.2v per cell would net = 12.8v,etc,etc
Timing really depends on the setup in question. For the T8 line I've found no reason to go above 50 but have gone all the way to 100 in testing. Some motors respond better to timing, mostly the wye wound motors like the 1900.
I often find gearing to be more of first adjustment rather than timing.
I have written a few "guides" for our tech department and support departments. I'll work on getting them put together into one doc and get the web guys to post it up.
Most of the info you're all looking for is in the update "notes" on the website.
We've already discussed a "per cell" voltage adjustment that the user can set. This would be say 3.2v per cell and this would then be affected by the onboard interface as well. So 4 led's at 3.2v per cell would net = 12.8v,etc,etc
Timing really depends on the setup in question. For the T8 line I've found no reason to go above 50 but have gone all the way to 100 in testing. Some motors respond better to timing, mostly the wye wound motors like the 1900.
I often find gearing to be more of first adjustment rather than timing.
I have written a few "guides" for our tech department and support departments. I'll work on getting them put together into one doc and get the web guys to post it up.
Most of the info you're all looking for is in the update "notes" on the website.
#24
Thanks morgoth, some of that does help.
As far as the GUI, don't be silly, I mean something less of an eye sore and is not buggy like a windows standard. Like Castle.
Thanks for the cut-off advice, I was not aware of that.
Thanks for the timing info.
I have more than one RX8, what do you mean only plug 1 into a PC? I would like to be able to configure all of them and know which one I am currently plugged into.
And the graph viewer comment was not a Castle vs Tekin argument, just something I would like to see.
Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. This shows why they need something.
*
As far as the GUI, don't be silly, I mean something less of an eye sore and is not buggy like a windows standard. Like Castle.
Thanks for the cut-off advice, I was not aware of that.
Thanks for the timing info.
I have more than one RX8, what do you mean only plug 1 into a PC? I would like to be able to configure all of them and know which one I am currently plugged into.
And the graph viewer comment was not a Castle vs Tekin argument, just something I would like to see.
Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. This shows why they need something.
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#25
Thanks morgoth, some of that does help.
As far as the GUI, don't be silly, I mean something less of an eye sore and is not buggy like a windows standard. Like Castle.
Thanks for the cut-off advice, I was not aware of that.
Thanks for the timing info.
I have more than one RX8, what do you mean only plug 1 into a PC? I would like to be able to configure all of them and know which one I am currently plugged into.
And the graph viewer comment was not a Castle vs Tekin argument, just something I would like to see.
Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. This shows why they need something.
*
As far as the GUI, don't be silly, I mean something less of an eye sore and is not buggy like a windows standard. Like Castle.
Thanks for the cut-off advice, I was not aware of that.
Thanks for the timing info.
I have more than one RX8, what do you mean only plug 1 into a PC? I would like to be able to configure all of them and know which one I am currently plugged into.
And the graph viewer comment was not a Castle vs Tekin argument, just something I would like to see.
Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. This shows why they need something.
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Btw, I forgot to mention some more about the timing. If you wanna change the start and end rpm. Choose timing profile C1 or C2. That are custom profiles that let you choose you own start and end rpm.
Start rpm: The moment that the extra timing is starting to kick in.
End rpm: The moment that you have the full extra timing that you choose.
For example you set 30% timing and 10k start rpm and 20k end rpm.
0-10k rpm: 0% timing
10k rpm: Timing kicks in
10-20k rpm: Timing keeps increasing until you reached 20k rpm and then you timing will be 30%. So when your motor is spinning at 15k rpm you should have about 15% timing.
20k-max rpm: 30% timing
I hope this clears up a few things.
Happy new everyone! I'm leaving for NYE dinner.
#26
We can change all of that. I will look into the suggestions and pass them along.
We've already discussed a "per cell" voltage adjustment that the user can set. This would be say 3.2v per cell and this would then be affected by the onboard interface as well. So 4 led's at 3.2v per cell would net = 12.8v,etc,etc
Timing really depends on the setup in question. For the T8 line I've found no reason to go above 50 but have gone all the way to 100 in testing. Some motors respond better to timing, mostly the wye wound motors like the 1900.
I often find gearing to be more of first adjustment rather than timing.
I have written a few "guides" for our tech department and support departments. I'll work on getting them put together into one doc and get the web guys to post it up.
Most of the info you're all looking for is in the update "notes" on the website.
We've already discussed a "per cell" voltage adjustment that the user can set. This would be say 3.2v per cell and this would then be affected by the onboard interface as well. So 4 led's at 3.2v per cell would net = 12.8v,etc,etc
Timing really depends on the setup in question. For the T8 line I've found no reason to go above 50 but have gone all the way to 100 in testing. Some motors respond better to timing, mostly the wye wound motors like the 1900.
I often find gearing to be more of first adjustment rather than timing.
I have written a few "guides" for our tech department and support departments. I'll work on getting them put together into one doc and get the web guys to post it up.
Most of the info you're all looking for is in the update "notes" on the website.
And guys, I am not plugging 2 esc's into the laptop at once.. HAHA..C'mon!
I just don't always have them in the vehicle and I don't see why there can't be profile names for the different esc's recognized by Vegas.Thanks again all.
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#27
Btw, I forgot to mention some more about the timing. If you wanna change the start and end rpm. Choose timing profile C1 or C2. That are custom profiles that let you choose you own start and end rpm.
Start rpm: The moment that the extra timing is starting to kick in.
End rpm: The moment that you have the full extra timing that you choose.
For example you set 30% timing and 10k start rpm and 20k end rpm.
0-10k rpm: 0% timing
10k rpm: Timing kicks in
10-20k rpm: Timing keeps increasing until you reached 20k rpm and then you timing will be 30%. So when your motor is spinning at 15k rpm you should have about 15% timing.
20k-max rpm: 30% timing
I hope this clears up a few things.
Start rpm: The moment that the extra timing is starting to kick in.
End rpm: The moment that you have the full extra timing that you choose.
For example you set 30% timing and 10k start rpm and 20k end rpm.
0-10k rpm: 0% timing
10k rpm: Timing kicks in
10-20k rpm: Timing keeps increasing until you reached 20k rpm and then you timing will be 30%. So when your motor is spinning at 15k rpm you should have about 15% timing.
20k-max rpm: 30% timing
I hope this clears up a few things.
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#29
I stumbled across this today and thought maybe it would help a little with some explanations.
Beginner's Guide
Beginner's Guide



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