Pro Trak
 

I don't know why no one has made a thread for their charger yet. Anyways I'm planning to get one and I'm very convinced from their website. I have owned a GFX and really liked it, but I want a smaller charger that doesn't take up too much space and is lighter to lug around to the tracks. I have a few ?'s.

1. What are the dimensions of the charger? Doesn't say on their website.
2. Do I need the thermal tray to charge NIMH? I have seen pics of world class driver's pits and they are using the Trinity batt. fan stand.
3. Is the Intensive Care System only for NICD like the webites says or would it be good to have for equalizing NIMH?

Any replies or thoughts would be greatly appreciated. This sounds like a wonderful charger and the produce support sounds like the best around.

Yes the Protrak is a wonderful charger. Maybe it doesn´t look as good as other chargers and the old case feels a little on the cheap side but there is a new one right now. Beside this it works awesome. There are some wellknown chargers from the German brands but I prefer the Protrak.
Dimensions are about 175 x 175 x 65 mm + wires. In inch it´s about 7 x 7 x 2.6

You don´t need the thermal tray for charging NIMH´s it´s just another option. Beside this the tray is using not only one but three thermal sensors and is showing all of their readings in the display. But the deltapeak cutoff is really working good so I´m not using the thermal cutoff even as I have one.

I don´t have the Intensive Care System. I´m using the Robitronic system which is working really good but takes some time as it´s discharging current is 1 amps. I´m planning for buying an additional Rayspeed unit but it´s not easy getting one currently.

I agree with V12 it's very good charger.

I do like mine, it takes a few times to get used to the menu, but any charger with all these features does.

Thanks guys. It seems like this would be the charger for me then.

I'm not sure if it's out yet but he has a new version with a 30 amp discharge and some other features i think.

From what I found there is a 20 A and a 30 A version but no other differences. The 30A version isn´t released yet as they have to wait for some parts. Release date is end of July.

Hi Nismo,

I do the sales tech support and basically anything you need in the US. if you have any question's please e-mail me.

Dimensions - V12 is very accurate approx 7" x 7" and about 2.5" tall. I think the new version will be slightly wider.

You can charge NiMh on peak no problem, I've been using temp detect for about 4 months but it does have some trouble when the ambient temperature rises. The thermal tray actually uses 4 temperature detection sensors.

The ICS will work for NiMh no problem, Phil has probably not changed that page since he first introduced the ICS about 8 years ago.

Hi all,

I set my charger up in an aluminum case with the power supply temp detect module and my com lathe. All I need to do is open it up plug in to the power and it's ready to go. See attached.

All I can say is, I ha a proTrak and was told The GFX is better, so I sold it and bought a GFX, guess what I have recently sold the GFX, bought a used Protrak and had it updated to the latest. specs.

Phil's service is amazing.....

Today my 16 year old comes to me and say Dad, can yo get me a ProTrak too, and sell my GFX...... he's been using the ProTrak and loves it....

It's the only way to go....

if anyone has an extra protrac charger.... I have a really hopped up nitro touring car for trade!

what do you like about the protrak over the gfx? i'm about to pick up a new charger soon.

I am getting ready to put one of mine for sale...

I have to many chargers and need to downsize.

But, not much need for a Nitro TC...

lol tres...
Come on! tres, it's a nice car!
http://www.rcpics.net/view_single.php?medid=28286
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anyways, when will the bc112c templates be done????

112C Race Plates are now done, I will have pics in the morn or so....

Tres,

About those face plates, are those anodized aluminum or acrylic plates with some designs underneath that you just bolt ontop of the existing plates?

I'm referring to the tekin plates...:)

rough512: drop me an email.

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I made windows program which makes the data of Pro Trak graph. Please open Following page and click link called pro?trak monitor.

I made windows program which makes the data of Pro Trak graph. Please open Following page and click link called "pro trak monitor"

http://www.kimihiko-yano.net/

3D graph..

Hi Kiyano,

I've ran a few sets through with your graph program, Phil sent it to me about a week or so ago, looks pretty good, I can appreciate the programming skills you need to do this . Phil is sending me some updated ROMS to make better use of the program so I'll be able to get a better handle on it when they come in. I have been using the terminal program with Excell a few times, one thing I like about that is I can print labels from the data and get many sets of cells on one graph. You have any thoughts on these facilities for your Program?

crimson eagle,

Thank you for your reply.

You have an interesting idea. I examine whether these ideas are realizable. There is a page which can write in feedback of a program among my pages. If there is a new idea, please write in there.

Thank you.

Hi Kiyano,

I'll check out your web pages some time soon, probably after I get the new software set up and cycle some cells with it. I was just wondering about the possibility of making your program a one stop place for all the things you need for you cells.... Yes I know this is asking a lot and I certainly could not do it. As I understand your program graphs the pack and the cells and takes the final data for the pack and the cells. Would be great if all this info could be printed off on one page. the other two things which come to mind would be: -

1. Graphing pack curves for many packs on one chart.
(for comparison purposes)

2. Printing Labels for the cells.

Yes I'm sorry to repeat myself but I'm thinking about it all as I type.

I have created an Excell Template for myself but it is still takes about fifteen minutes of work after cycling the cells. It would be great (and maybe impossible) to be able to just print it all off when the cells have been cycled.

Just to digress a little, I've been thinking about ending my mail with the following phrase (please excuse the spelling)

Ichy beeru ku desai!

What is the newest version of the 20amp Pro Trak?

10.56 I think is the newest version.

Ok just looking at buying one off a friend of mine. He has the v10.25.

I've had my Pro-Trak for about five or six years. Awesome piece of equipment. Phil's service is the best in the business. Can't say enough good things about this company!
Later
Doc

Nismo,

If you would like it upgraded to the latest version, I offer that service in the US.

Thats what I prolly will do. I think I will wait till July to up grade it to the 30amp.

BTW how much would it be to upgrade to the 30amp with the blue backlight.

Hi Nismo,

Phil and I are working on that, we will know better nearer the time that it's available but I do know that to go to 30A and the blue display is not cheap as the parts are expensive. I'd also imagine you would want to go to the new case Assy also?

I'll make it known when the info is available on this forum but you can e-mail me any time about anything else. at the address below.

Thats kool. I might hit you up for an upgrade to the newest version in the mean time. How much for the upgrades except the 30amp up grade? Besides I don't need to discharge my batteries at 30amp anyway.

I got a few questions. First off nice charger it has lots of features. The question I have is, does the charger have a motor run feature? If not, is there a plan to add that? Second who distributes this unit in the states? I plan to be in the market for a high end charger in 6-12 months. Thanks much.

Nismo,

$57.00 will get you the latest software, some internal hardware replacement, the unit calibrated and tested and return shipping to you. To accurately calibrate the unit I do need the cell monitoring leads that were supplied with the unit.

There is an option motor stand that you have to buy to run a motor. Crimson eagle does all the selling and servicing for them.

Kool. As soon as we are done with the TCS here in Memphis, I'll send it to you. Gives me enough time before our next race.

Ess,

The charger does have a motor run in feature, an accesory is required to use this which is approximately $60 shipped (varies with tax requirement and exchange rate).

I do all that you would need in the States, supply, tech support, upgrade repair etc.

I've known Phil for about 8 or 9 years, we raced together for a some time while I was still in England. At the turn of this year I offered my services as I now live in the US, this provided a great opportunity for both of us, he accepted and this is where we are right now.

Sounds good Nismo, drop me an e-mail when you are ready.

I experience the following problem:
I charge a 3300mAh battery at 5amps. At the end of the charge the informative message
indicates that the battery has received well more than 3300mAh and sometimes this value may exceed the 4000mAh.
I have set the peak value to 0.03. When I discharge the battery the information shown indicates a capacity of less than the value
shown when charging. The point is that the difference is usually greater than 300mAh.
I have gone throught the calibration procedure several times but I still experience the same problem.
The batteries have been bought a year ago and have been used regularly, around twice a week.
Any ideas why this occurs?

Thank you

Nick

Just my guess....

Unfortunately the batteries aren't 100% efficient, so although the Protrak delivered 4000mAh to the pack, unfortunately some of that is lost as heat etc. Likewise on discharge some of the stored power is lost as heat etc. So what comes out won't ever equal what you put in.

So a difference of 400 over 4000 mAh is an efficiency of 90% - not bad considering you lose on both the charge and the discharge.

After I've used the conditioning tray to bring the cells down to 0v the mAh going in can be in the high 4000s, when you discharge you may be only going down to 6v so you'll never see all of the 4000 back.

...Like I say just a guess...