Originally Posted by SlowerOne (Post 9011430)

Here in the UK we are waiting for the Hobbywing customer service to take off. It is good to hear that it will eventually. In the meantime, we have to look after ourselves, which does not make it easy for your company to expand sales.

Originally Posted by COBRARACING (Post 9009586)

Tekin is a great brand with a gentlemen behind the company in jim campbell.There product is excellent with innovation,support and performance .

Hobbywing is also a top product with excellent performance ,support and innovation which in time will only get better and better .

So both have the own right tekin and hobbywing and it's up to the customer on what product they choose but whatever they choose they will be happy with any of the two .

The problem with some American manufacturers is they try to stop other abroad manufacturers from entering the US market by producing patents that they havent even innovated NOW that is protectionism this does not hold the customer loyal as there only trying to stop competition and choice which inturn makes the customer walk away not only from the product but the sport .

Hobbywing is different we hold the customer with support,innovation and quality not patents .That's the big difference between us and others .

we thought long and hard in the last couple of months with aquiring patents for our innovation but sat and thought why should we go down that path we know we are the designers and the innovators and thats more than enough for us .why spend money on lawyers for patents when we can spend that money on innovation for our loyal customers .The ones who Aquire patents and well know that its not there innovation only tells me they are falling behind the eight ball in patenting old tech and dont think in moving forward with new tech .In other words they have reached there limits

Originally Posted by SCTom (Post 9013168)

I think Cobra is talking about patent "bridges" that companies build in order to monopolize designs. A friend that works for Ford explained this to me and said it was common in the auto industry.
Tom

Originally Posted by SlowerOne (Post 9007329)

That's an interesting post.

America is indeed on the decline. In 1980, when Reagan came to power, America was the biggest creditor nation on earth. In 1988, when he left, it was the biggest debtor nation on earth, a position it has only enhanced in the 20+ years that have followed. America is already 'Made in China', as a visit to any shop there will clearly show. The US seems to want everything cheap, so it buys it from abroad (or, in the case of its automotive industry, from manufacturers who send the profits abroad), and borrows the money to do it. The UK is not far behind...

50 years ago we lived in a world where protectionism was rampant, and people were stuck with whatever the local market decided to make. Britain and America made terrible cars, motorcycles and white goods. As the world turned to free trade, away from protectionism, we were able to buy these from companies that made them better. If we were all patriotic, what would that quality be today? For America and the UK, pretty crap actually!!

China has people who work for low wages. They also have people who work for high wages. Poverty is in the rural areas, the industrial areas have higher standards of living. Workers in Chinese factories work less hours than those in rural areas on their farms. It's all relative. By your own admission, you have no evidence about any of the factories making these bits.

As consumers in a free market, you buy what you want where you want. If there is a better mousetrap, why not buy it? And yes, the Americans have clearly demonstrated that they do want to send their money overseas, mostly to China!! I see your point, but it seems to me that horse has bolted... :)

Oh, and having tried both HW and Tekin, my limited driving ability finds them equal over the race distance (12th and six-minute-GT10) with the HW having better throttle feel and costing half the price. You pays your money and you takes your choice.

Woffle over!! :nod:

Originally Posted by rccartips (Post 9007515)

I might be wrong, but the original poster SAM-E might not even be from USA. Probably Australia? And I read Hobbywing is very popular over there.

Tekin killed the BD and other non-programmable escs via quality and pricing.

HW is now the new esc on the block. Quality at even better pricing.

Originally Posted by hardmankam (Post 7409721)

I have both ESC's... here is what i have to say:
For value, best bang for the $ ... SP/HW ESC.
For super customer service/support ... Tekin RS/RSPro

Originally Posted by Matt_N (Post 7411465)

I own both these speedos, and currently have the Tekin sat in my pitbox :p It just seems flat and slow compared to the hobbywing.
Matt

Originally Posted by razzor (Post 7412386)

I run both Tekin and SP/HW and they are all exceptional esc's and have been using them for well over 2 years now.

...HW however is simply the best value for money and performance and actually opens ones eyes to the fact how other brands that manufacturer thier esc's in China make thier money with exhorbitant pricing but yet still dont have the quality and reliability of HW.

Originally Posted by Benzaah (Post 9004903)

I ran Tekin for a good 6 months when Vegas software came out before switching to Hobbywing and their 518 software and i have never looked back. No lap tops at the track and it has all the features and driveablilty of the Tekin if not more.

Originally Posted by VooDooPH (Post 9005028)

I have both Tekin and HW.
My Tekin is now my stand-by/back-up ESC while i have HW's mounted on my TC and 1/12.

Originally Posted by RC MARKET (Post 9011477)

two of best !
Tekin in Stock class & 12/1
Hobbywing in MOD class

Originally Posted by skypilot (Post 9013270)

I would gladly drive "crap cars and ride crappy motorcycles, if it meant I could still buy an "american" car. that little man from texas with the big ears had it right...."free trade = giant sucking sound"

Originally Posted by rccartips (Post 9013799)

Not a fanboy for Hobbywing. Just a fan of rc products that are high quality and cheap.

Originally Posted by skypilot (Post 9015730)

Americas not on the free trade bandwagon....... ok if you say so

The little man I refer to was named Ross, not geo

For the other guy, Hobbywing was around when you quit.

Originally Posted by COBRARACING (Post 9012059)

I thought Stuart (cherry2blost)from racers in exile and giant cod were giving you the service you require ?