Team Tekin New Speedos
04-26-2007, 12:50 PM
#406
How about letting the product to be released and reviewed before picking it apart? Or is being an armchair expert on something isn't even released that exciting? If you don't like the product just don't buy it. No product is a fit everyone.
For the rest of us Tekin offers a package that isn't available on the market. I really do need the smaller footprint and would like to try the sensorless option. Mamba is big, while great for trucks fitting it on 4wd buggy and TCs is a PITA. It also only offers 5.0v bec, adding an external BEC would mean even more space. I didn't pay $100+ for a servo to get anything than full specs.
For the rest of us Tekin offers a package that isn't available on the market. I really do need the smaller footprint and would like to try the sensorless option. Mamba is big, while great for trucks fitting it on 4wd buggy and TCs is a PITA. It also only offers 5.0v bec, adding an external BEC would mean even more space. I didn't pay $100+ for a servo to get anything than full specs.
04-26-2007, 01:03 PM
#409
The controller could be very very good - take the experience of the Castle hardware guys, improved software to run Wye wind motors and then add in Tekin experience that gives the controller car specific features that people want such as a 6 volt BEC, smaller size, easier programming etc.
04-26-2007, 01:05 PM
#410
Doubts yes. Anything can fail. What we hear now are mostly made by the marketing department anyways. But how valid is your opinion when you haven't even seen the product and just continue to bag it? So if castles can't do then that means xxx company has no chance of doing it?
As for fanbois. This will be the first Tekin product I will buy. Never owned or even wanted to own a Tekin branded product before. Yea I'm a Tekin Fanboi alright.
As for fanbois. This will be the first Tekin product I will buy. Never owned or even wanted to own a Tekin branded product before. Yea I'm a Tekin Fanboi alright.
04-26-2007, 01:08 PM
#411
Originally Posted by secretsg
Doubts yes. Anything can fail. What we hear now are mostly made by the marketing department anyways. But how valid is your opinion when you haven't even seen the product and just continue to bag it? So if castles can't do then that means xxx company has no chance of doing it?
As for fanbois. This will be the first Tekin product I will buy. Never owned or even wanted to own a Tekin branded product before. Yea I'm a Tekin Fanboi alright.
As for fanbois. This will be the first Tekin product I will buy. Never owned or even wanted to own a Tekin branded product before. Yea I'm a Tekin Fanboi alright.
Fact: It doesnt seem to work with Novak motors at the moment
Fact: Many clubs only allow Novak motors
Thus the reason for our concern. We want to use the product but if we cant then we cant.
04-26-2007, 01:12 PM
#412
Last time I checked this is called sarcasm. Not constructive criticism.
Originally Posted by or8ital
Companies like Mamba havent figured out how to do it yet so we are cautiously optimistic.
04-26-2007, 01:12 PM
#413
That depends on your definition of "work." Yes we can drive them, I have personally, it's just not perfect yet. But very close, I'm impressed so far. We like perfection, that way, when you buy the product and use it with something we say it can do, it will. It has been said before, but we don't want the customer to be the guinea pig for the product.
04-26-2007, 01:15 PM
#414
Originally Posted by secretsg
Last time I checked this is called sarcasm. Not constructive criticism.
04-26-2007, 01:16 PM
#415
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
fact: the world does carry on outside of the USA and most clubs in Europe do not restrict to Novak motors. The issue is making complete sense of the feedback from the motor. The big issue realy, is that the companies who have gone sensored, are realy binding you in to run their motors in a sense.
Don't forget, like CC, the Tekin will be updatable from your pc, so as an when a motor is released that causes an issue, it can be resolved.
Don't forget, like CC, the Tekin will be updatable from your pc, so as an when a motor is released that causes an issue, it can be resolved.
04-26-2007, 01:19 PM
#416
Originally Posted by DA_cookie_monst
The big issue realy, is that the companies who have gone sensored, are realy binding you in to run their motors in a sense.
04-26-2007, 01:20 PM
#417
I disagree, the big issue is that we dont have a spec for a brushless motor yet so clubs are left to decide for themselves and in the absense of a spec they just choose one motor. Once there is a spec and clubs allow all motors running that spec then there wont be an issue. If you have a particular ESC run the motor that is meant for that ESC. I agree, outside of spec racing this isnt an issue because you can just run the redline motors.
04-26-2007, 01:40 PM
#418
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
No, what was meant is that whilst you have a closed lood sensored system, you can make it pretty awkward for other companies to read what your motor is doing, and will ALWAYS work best with their ESC.
Imagine with your Checkpoint 19t motor, and would only work it's best with, say a Novak ESC, that wouldn't be right. This is where sensorless is better as it is always easier to read what the motor is doing.
Imagine with your Checkpoint 19t motor, and would only work it's best with, say a Novak ESC, that wouldn't be right. This is where sensorless is better as it is always easier to read what the motor is doing.
04-26-2007, 01:47 PM
#419
So Tekin is adding a sensor wire to their redline motors for Novak to work with them? <-- that is sarcasm. Its just the reality that we are in with brushless. As it stands now sensorless escs dont work well with sensored motors and vice versa. Sensorless ESC stand a better chance if they can figure out sensorless motors. Then they wont be limited whereas a sensored ESC will never be able to run a sensorless motor.
My guess is that sensored brushless makes things a lot easier on the esc side but more difficult on the motor side where sensorless brushless is easier on the motor side but much more difficult on the esc side.
I think I typed the word Sensor too many times to make sense
My guess is that sensored brushless makes things a lot easier on the esc side but more difficult on the motor side where sensorless brushless is easier on the motor side but much more difficult on the esc side.
I think I typed the word Sensor too many times to make sense