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Old 03-20-2026 | 07:07 AM
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Default Made a new nitro engine pre-heater.

RC nitro engines like to be pre-heated before they are started and so we do see plenty of solutions like hair dryers, paint guns, curling irons with a 3D printed adapter to fit the cooling head and the velcro things to wrap around the head.

A while ago I made a temperature controlled pre-heater with some simple Aliexpress temperature controller: Homemade engine heater - R/C Tech Forums which does do its job very well.

But I always had the idea to create something with a real temperature readout showing how hot the engine is.
I am well known with electronics but beside some school experience with Ultimade/Ultiboard (I have an original old DOS version with a special school licence) I do the most on just simple experimental PCB so I did design a schematic with some calculated components to make a steady heater at 100 degrees C (that is 212 F) and a simple LED bar meter.
In a very short time it became clear with the needed space I needed to go to a lot of SMD components double sided to get it within the 46mm round shaped PCB to make it all fit so I downloaded KiCad which has an awesome community and so within 2 days I had a good base to finetune.


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When I was happy with the result I gave an order to JLPCB and in a week time I had 25 PCB's on the doormat. Not that I was planning to make that much but it was not the extra costs...

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I started to assemble 10 PCB's

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With my previous model I used a massive bar of aluminium and gave it the right shape on my lathe. This time I bought a fresh tube of aluminium with an ID of 55mm that will fit most of todays onroad cooling heads and did press in a 5mm thick plate to make it a nice cup. It is cheaper and much easier/faster to produce. Here a 1st test with just a 40w cartridge heater and the controller its sensor clamped on the cup, unless the bad heat connection to the cup it became quickly very hot.

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And the 2 parts got compartments milled with a rounded tip mill bit for a maximum touching surface. Also a blue top panel was made. I have also black panels ready

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So this is the temperature sensor in the middle of the cup that will be close at the glowplug to measure the surrounding temperature. The sensor is mounted in a piece of teflon which is a very good heat insulator so the sensor is not much influenced by the direct heat from the aluminium cup.

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Tested with my FLIR. Problem with my head is that it is 50mm in diameter and so there is a huge airgap between the cup and the head but it did look promising. I have plans to make an adapter for 50mm heads.

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Because the temperature inside did not go beyond about 70 degrees I had to adjust the scale of the LED bar which was by default 125. I could easily do a small invisible mod on the PCB.

Here a pic of an todays OS head fitting the cup nicely.

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Here the parts for the total assembly. First I thought I could do it with an 8mm lexan disc as an insulator and on top the blue disc holding the electronics but with all the wires I came to the conclusion more space was needed so I added a 6mm dark colored lexan ring. The blank lexan part has a small hole that will get a fitting high temp rubber cable gland.

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Off course the eye wants to see something so I made a LED strip all around in a slot that was made in the blanc lexan part which also indicated that it is on power and so hot.

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First test on the track was promising. I still had no adapter made for my 50mm heads and so the engine did not get that hot.

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With the cup getting fast on temperature it does take the readout up to 5 minutes to get to 50 degrees and then it takes another 10 minutes to get to about 70 degrees C so the readout is really measuring temperature changes close to the glowplug.

The idea is working but need to get some changes. First of all I need to make an adapter to bring all the heat closer to the head, maybe to raise the temperature a tiny bit from 100 degrees C to about 120. Also the used cartridge heater supposed to be 50 watt but on my power supply it shows as a 40 watt heater. I did see there are also 60 and even 70 watt versions to find so that could be something to try. Also some shrink wrap or a thin plastic sleeve around the cup will isolate the cup more from cooling from the outside, for that I can take off 2 to 3 mm of the OD of the cup to keep it small so it will fit though the body (with 53~55mm heads), the OD of the cup is w/o any work 60mm.

Other versions I have planned with all the parts I have prepared is beside a blue topdeck a black one and basically any wished color matching the body or brand colors is possible, not that I will start production to sell but I did look into orange because a good friend runs Serpent. Sadly because it is not a well used color it is not that cheap. Also the LED strip can be bought in all kind of colors getting it matched with the topdeck color.
I have made one topdeck to fit a small voltmeter as a readout to show a real temperature and I have one prepared with no readout as a simple version.
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