Batteries? send help!
#1
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Joined: Oct 2023
Posts: 29
Hey peeps,
I can't post links so I've tried to include the relevant info below.
I'm still reasonably uneducated on the technical stuff regarding RC electronics.
Hobbyking are opening up their AU warehouse, which hopefully means cheap LiPos but I don't understand :-s
Hobbyking are offering a Turnigy Rapid 6500mAH 140c Lipo for $40
EZPower have a 6800mah for $149
Surely there must be a reason the ezpower is more expensive? but from what I can see on face value the Turnigy battery comes out on top?
Capacity: 6500mAh
Configuration: 2S2P / 7.4V / 2Cell
Constant Discharge: Up to 140C
Pack Weight: 308g
Pack Size: 139 x 47 x 26mm
Balance Connector: JST-XH
Discharge Cable: 10AWG
EZpower:
Features
I can't post links so I've tried to include the relevant info below.
I'm still reasonably uneducated on the technical stuff regarding RC electronics.
Hobbyking are opening up their AU warehouse, which hopefully means cheap LiPos but I don't understand :-s
Hobbyking are offering a Turnigy Rapid 6500mAH 140c Lipo for $40
EZPower have a 6800mah for $149
Surely there must be a reason the ezpower is more expensive? but from what I can see on face value the Turnigy battery comes out on top?
- Turnigy:
- ROAR approved
- Precision-matched cells
- Low internal resistance
- Longer cycle life
- Turnigy quality
- High energy density (lightweight and high capacity)
- capable of up to 140C discharge rate
Capacity: 6500mAh
Configuration: 2S2P / 7.4V / 2Cell
Constant Discharge: Up to 140C
Pack Weight: 308g
Pack Size: 139 x 47 x 26mm
Balance Connector: JST-XH
Discharge Cable: 10AWG
EZpower:
Features
- 7.6V (HV) Graphene
- 6800mAh
- 70C / 140C rating
- Low Center of Gravity
- 5mm connectors
- 285grams
- 22.5mm height
- EFRA, BRCA and IFMAR approved
#2
Ready for some school? Take a seat 
first off the 7.6 hv just means these are better quality battery cells that can handle the higher volts. The graphene is arguably better at lowering IR (internal resistance - think of battery losses before even leaving the battery). Also the capacity of a hv 7.6 battery needs to be higher IF you are charging at 7.4v. The 6800 is 6800 at 7.6 but if your racing where there’s 7.4 battery limits, your 6800 just became a ~6200mah because it’s not “fully charged”. The plus side to that is less fade. If you look at battery curves, it’s highest at 100% then gradually curves down. If you race stock classes, a flat discharge rate is very nice. You kinda throw away the extreme values on a battery curve. No big drop off from 100-90% and you balance your cars power so you have enough battery to run the race. During the last minute you won’t have to punch the throttle extra to make those bigger jumps if your battery curve is still flatter rather than dropping

first off the 7.6 hv just means these are better quality battery cells that can handle the higher volts. The graphene is arguably better at lowering IR (internal resistance - think of battery losses before even leaving the battery). Also the capacity of a hv 7.6 battery needs to be higher IF you are charging at 7.4v. The 6800 is 6800 at 7.6 but if your racing where there’s 7.4 battery limits, your 6800 just became a ~6200mah because it’s not “fully charged”. The plus side to that is less fade. If you look at battery curves, it’s highest at 100% then gradually curves down. If you race stock classes, a flat discharge rate is very nice. You kinda throw away the extreme values on a battery curve. No big drop off from 100-90% and you balance your cars power so you have enough battery to run the race. During the last minute you won’t have to punch the throttle extra to make those bigger jumps if your battery curve is still flatter rather than dropping
#3
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staiguy gave you a good explanation why cheap batteries are cheap, and good batteries cost more. The question is, what are you doing with them? If you are "bashing", buy 2 or 3 of the HK batteries and enjoy. If you are new to racing, buy the HK battery until you can complete a main without crashing, then upgrade when you feel you need 10% more performance.
#4
Ready for some school? Take a seat 
first off the 7.6 hv just means these are better quality battery cells that can handle the higher volts. The graphene is arguably better at lowering IR (internal resistance - think of battery losses before even leaving the battery). Also the capacity of a hv 7.6 battery needs to be higher IF you are charging at 7.4v. The 6800 is 6800 at 7.6 but if your racing where there’s 7.4 battery limits, your 6800 just became a ~6200mah because it’s not “fully charged”. The plus side to that is less fade. If you look at battery curves, it’s highest at 100% then gradually curves down. If you race stock classes, a flat discharge rate is very nice. You kinda throw away the extreme values on a battery curve. No big drop off from 100-90% and you balance your cars power so you have enough battery to run the race. During the last minute you won’t have to punch the throttle extra to make those bigger jumps if your battery curve is still flatter rather than dropping

first off the 7.6 hv just means these are better quality battery cells that can handle the higher volts. The graphene is arguably better at lowering IR (internal resistance - think of battery losses before even leaving the battery). Also the capacity of a hv 7.6 battery needs to be higher IF you are charging at 7.4v. The 6800 is 6800 at 7.6 but if your racing where there’s 7.4 battery limits, your 6800 just became a ~6200mah because it’s not “fully charged”. The plus side to that is less fade. If you look at battery curves, it’s highest at 100% then gradually curves down. If you race stock classes, a flat discharge rate is very nice. You kinda throw away the extreme values on a battery curve. No big drop off from 100-90% and you balance your cars power so you have enough battery to run the race. During the last minute you won’t have to punch the throttle extra to make those bigger jumps if your battery curve is still flatter rather than dropping
#6
- Turnigy:
- ROAR approved
- Precision-matched cells
- Low internal resistance
- Longer cycle life
- Turnigy quality
- High energy density (lightweight and high capacity)
- capable of up to 140C discharge rate
Capacity: 6500mAh
Configuration: 2S2P / 7.4V / 2Cell
Constant Discharge: Up to 140C
Pack Weight: 308g
Pack Size: 139 x 47 x 26mm
Balance Connector: JST-XH
Discharge Cable: 10AWG
#7
#8
#9

70/140 is actually far more believable than that cheap Turnigy delivering constant 140C.
At first I was wondering why the second battery was so extremely expensive, before it hit me that it's AUD not USD - which made me wonder how cheap and crappy these Turnigys must be then.
#10
No, you're right. Guess I wasn't paying enough attention. Ooops.
70/140 is actually far more believable than that cheap Turnigy delivering constant 140C.
At first I was wondering why the second battery was so extremely expensive, before it hit me that it's AUD not USD - which made me wonder how cheap and crappy these Turnigys must be then.

70/140 is actually far more believable than that cheap Turnigy delivering constant 140C.
At first I was wondering why the second battery was so extremely expensive, before it hit me that it's AUD not USD - which made me wonder how cheap and crappy these Turnigys must be then.
#11
#12
A little less debatable but more important is c charge rate. Most cheaper cells say 1c, which is the healthiest, or nondestructive way to charge your battery. Others may say 2c, 3c or 10c. These are specs a healthy battery can get charged at and the manufacturer is less likely to get sued :P. Pros need that low ir and do 30 amps up, 30 amps down to prep and heat up their battery before races. This will shorten your battery life. If it’s a cheap battery might not live for long at those rates. At a pro level, a new battery once a month is normal because it loses its competitive edge. Still probably has some good life left in it, if charged at the recommended rating but not for their needs
#13
A little less debatable but more important is c charge rate. Most cheaper cells say 1c, which is the healthiest, or nondestructive way to charge your battery. Others may say 2c, 3c or 10c. These are specs a healthy battery can get charged at and the manufacturer is less likely to get sued :P. Pros need that low ir and do 30 amps up, 30 amps down to prep and heat up their battery before races. This will shorten your battery life. If it’s a cheap battery might not live for long at those rates. At a pro level, a new battery once a month is normal because it loses its competitive edge. Still probably has some good life left in it, if charged at the recommended rating but not for their needs
#14
Sometimes they do not even fully charge their batteries in Mod (e.g. only charge to let's say 8.30V instead of 8.40V) to take away the extra punch stock racers crave.
#15
A little less debatable but more important is c charge rate. Most cheaper cells say 1c, which is the healthiest, or nondestructive way to charge your battery. Others may say 2c, 3c or 10c. These are specs a healthy battery can get charged at and the manufacturer is less likely to get sued :P. Pros need that low ir and do 30 amps up, 30 amps down to prep and heat up their battery before races. This will shorten your battery life. If it’s a cheap battery might not live for long at those rates. At a pro level, a new battery once a month is normal because it loses its competitive edge. Still probably has some good life left in it, if charged at the recommended rating but not for their needs



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