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Old 06-27-2022, 06:35 PM
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Yes, it will! I cannot believe you said this! Have you tried it? So why do some batteries, 4s, come with 10-gauge wire?
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I also highly recommend 11 gauge for SCT 4x4 as they draw a lot of current. I am using 11 gauge in my ET410 from battery to esc, as I want more power to the motor.
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Originally Posted by Roelof
The disadvantage of a forum is that you can get a wide range of totally different answers from brand/shop fanboys making it more confusing.
Call me weird but when I am in the need of something or start a new project I can spend some hours on the net to find the right stuff/information and I think that is just a part of the hobby, not only to be self supporting but also to learn something because in the search I always do see other solutions come by.

In this case 11AWG is not as rare as the topicstarter claims. If I did read it right it is is very close to the metric 4mm2 what a common size wire diameter is.
Mostly true. Although thanks to others here, we can find out who's giving bad information and who's giving good information. Can't really do that with Google.
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I think you have to look more to your solder joints, a bad or good solder with the right solder will make a huge difference because solder has a higher resistance than a copper wire.

And if no flex is needed why not going for a solid copper wire? there is more copper on the same diameter than a flex wire......
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
Changing wire gauge won't give you more power.
Not true providing that the current is available
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Old 06-28-2022, 03:47 AM
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If the ESC is close to the motor a 1AWG difference in wire will not be a noticable issue
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Originally Posted by platgof
Yes, it will! I cannot believe you said this! Have you tried it? So why do some batteries, 4s, come with 10-gauge wire?
To avoid melting. But you're not going to get a tangible difference in power delivery by moving in a 1awg increment, especially if you're not melting with the smaller wire in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Shawn B
Not true providing that the current is available
They were claiming that switching to 10awg wire would deliver too much power vs 11awg, despite the 11awg already running cool.
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Ran the B4E hard today, up and down the road, and the motor was barely warm, not so with 12 gauge. Moving one awg in rc is huge!! It is like 25% greater current flow, that is not small potatoes.
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Originally Posted by platgof
Ran the B4E hard today, up and down the road, and the motor was barely warm, not so with 12 gauge. Moving one awg in rc is huge!! It is like 25% greater current flow, that is not small potatoes.
Using too small a gauge wire will warm the wires, not the motor. Using a higher gauge to allow more current should make the motor hotter, not colder. The motor and battery dictate how much current is drawn, the wire only comes into play if it's undersized. You said you'd get too much power using 10awg instead of 11awg, which is blatantly not true. You don't magically get 25% more power from the battery each time you step up the wire thickness.
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[QUOTE=platgof;15915627 I was using a 10-gauge wire to double the power[/QUOTE]

Yeah thats impossible and not how batteries work.

Also in TQ11 gauge vs 10g, a lot of TQs wire has more strands than larger wire which lets it carry power better. It talks about it on their website.

I use their 13g a lot since its as good or better than 12g and a few grams lighter. I don't notice any power difference in stock or mod.
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Originally Posted by Alexv2024
Yeah thats impossible and not how batteries work.

Also in TQ11 gauge vs 10g, a lot of TQs wire has more strands than larger wire which lets it carry power better. It talks about it on their website.

I use their 13g a lot since its as good or better than 12g and a few grams lighter. I don't notice any power difference in stock or mod.
More wire strands instead of thicker wire strands has two benefits. The wire becomes more flexible, and it improves current delivery for AC current due to the skin effect. It doesn't benefit DC current. A solid wire will conduct DC better for the same overall diameter as it'll have more cross sectional area. But it won't flex and can break easily.
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Isn't it more about the quality of wires? It is a common problem with network cables that there are cheap cables with (partly) steel wires instead of copper, I can imagine some chinese source will put such cables as well in the RC industry.
But keep in mind some curves in the cable can also work as tiny coils acting like electric magnets and getting warm.

Maybe you should go to a high end audio store where you can get gold plated speaker cables.
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Originally Posted by Roelof
Isn't it more about the quality of wires? It is a common problem with network cables that there are cheap cables with (partly) steel wires instead of copper, I can imagine some chinese source will put such cables as well in the RC industry.
But keep in mind some curves in the cable can also work as tiny coils acting like electric magnets and getting warm.

Maybe you should go to a high end audio store where you can get gold plated speaker cables.
Quality cables can help. Gold plating helps for connectors but not for soldered connections. Most high end audio cables are snake oil, but bad cables can make a difference.
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The power loss differences between different wires based on quick calcs. Losses go up with the square of current, but linear to wire length. YMMV according to wire composition/materials etc. Good quality wire will have specifications for the stuff that matters.
500kV transmission lines in NSW use a bundle of 4 smaller conductors. 330kV/132kV lines use a single conductor cable which is typically multicore aluminium. The higher voltages cause electrons to run away from each other, so 4 smaller ones work betterly.
Many years ago in worked in what was the state generator/distributor...



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