Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Radio and Electronics
When do you need to replace the rotor of a brushless motor? >

When do you need to replace the rotor of a brushless motor?

Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree10Likes

When do you need to replace the rotor of a brushless motor?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-10-2021, 06:18 AM
  #1  
Tech Rookie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 17
Default When do you need to replace the rotor of a brushless motor?

When do you need to replace the rotor of a brushless motor?


Mali06 is offline  
Old 03-10-2021, 06:26 AM
  #2  
R/C Tech Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
mrreet2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 2,043
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

When it is no longer performing as it should. A lot of variables go into it. Age, brand, heat.
gigaplex and Mali06 like this.
mrreet2001 is offline  
Old 03-10-2021, 07:17 AM
  #3  
Tech Rookie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 17
Default

I have a 13.5t motor for years and I've got a new rotor for it. Just don't know when's the time to replace it.

The motor seems to run fine now....Maybe I should give the new rotor a try and see how much of a difference it makes.


Mali06 is offline  
Old 03-10-2021, 07:22 AM
  #4  
Tech Rookie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 17
Default

Is there a good way to check the straightness of a rotor shaft?
Mali06 is offline  
Old 03-10-2021, 07:22 AM
  #5  
Tech Adept
 
BaconRaygun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Longuyland, NY
Posts: 142
Default

If you thermal a motor a few times, that's gonna do it, lol.

Another example would be if you had a bearing start to slip between the inner race and the rotor shaft. That would quickly diminish the tolerances and start to cause radial play, which would cause even more wear, which would cause more play, and so forth... In that case, don't forget to swap the bearings too.

I guess if you manage to break a shaft, but I imagine that's kind of hard to do with a car.
BaconRaygun is offline  
Old 03-10-2021, 07:27 AM
  #6  
Tech Adept
 
BaconRaygun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Longuyland, NY
Posts: 142
Default

Originally Posted by Mali06
Is there a good way to check the straightness of a rotor shaft?

The easy way would be to remove the pinion and spin the motor. If the shaft wobbles, then it's bent. You can also remove a shaft and roll it on a glass table.

The most accurate way is to remove the rotor and roll it on two flat edges. Place the edges on the shaft ends so the magnet portion is in the middle. You need to use a non-magnetic medium for this like acrylic, glass or polished stone slabs. The motor will wobble as it rolls and settle on the low side.

Ok, the MOST accurate way is to use an external bearing block and a dial indicator. But I'm guessing you don't want to spend $100 on a dial indicator.
BaconRaygun is offline  
Old 03-10-2021, 07:36 AM
  #7  
Tech Rookie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 17
Default

I think I will check the shaft between a pair of droop blocks. Droop blocks should be fine since they are aluminum and flat.

Thanks!!
BaconRaygun likes this.
Mali06 is offline  
Old 03-10-2021, 07:37 AM
  #8  
Tech Rookie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 17
Default

the shaft looks fine at where the bearings touched. Can't believe it's a few years old.

Mali06 is offline  
Old 03-10-2021, 08:21 AM
  #9  
Tech Lord
 
Roelof's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Holland
Posts: 12,339
Default

You can get or make a gauss meter to show the strength of the magnetic field and follow it over the life you are using it.
Mali06 and BaconRaygun like this.
Roelof is online now  
Old 03-10-2021, 08:49 AM
  #10  
Tech Adept
 
BaconRaygun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Longuyland, NY
Posts: 142
Default

Originally Posted by Mali06
the shaft looks fine at where the bearings touched. Can't believe it's a few years old.
That's great! That means you did not have any weird bearing problems (sometimes very difficult to pin down, especially in cars because you wont always hear it like you would with a different kind of model).

Based on that and your other post, I would say keep using that rotor for now. You can always try the other one to see if you feel a difference, and if not, then just stick with this one till it wears out.

BaconRaygun is offline  
Old 03-19-2021, 07:19 AM
  #11  
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
 
AMachines's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: East Texas
Posts: 56
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by mrreet2001
When it is no longer performing as it should. A lot of variables go into it. Age, brand, heat.
so do the windings go bad as well
AMachines is offline  
Old 03-19-2021, 08:04 AM
  #12  
Suspended
iTrader: (16)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,612
Trader Rating: 16 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Roelof
You can get or make a gauss meter to show the strength of the magnetic field and follow it over the life you are using it.
Info on making a gauss meter?
Timmahh is offline  
Old 03-19-2021, 08:06 AM
  #13  
Suspended
iTrader: (16)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,612
Trader Rating: 16 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by AMachines
so do the windings go bad as well
The windings are generally made of high-quality copper. They wont go bad persay, but if the motor gets too hot, it may cause some insulation issues.
Takes quite a bit to melt copper. Otherwise, there is not much that one can do to the windings unless overheating has causes shorts from loss of the wire insulation.
Timmahh is offline  
Old 03-19-2021, 10:54 AM
  #14  
Tech Lord
 
Roelof's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Holland
Posts: 12,339
Default

Originally Posted by Timmahh
Info on making a gauss meter?

Timmahh and Xrayray like this.
Roelof is online now  
Old 03-19-2021, 04:28 PM
  #15  
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 403
Default

What does it mean when the motor is “crunchy“?

when you turn the arm and there are definite hard clunks?

I have a motor from Surpass racing that had very few packs on it and was never run hot, no major impacts

can I fix it just by putting a new rotor in it?
purplegrape is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.