Pactra Paint Being Discontinued
05-29-2013, 05:14 PM
#31
I don't care how good or bad acrylic adheres...you still can't do this kind of color depth with it....
05-29-2013, 07:44 PM
#35
By color depth, the photo probably doen't show it but you have to see the body in person to really understand. The paint looks like it is 2-3" thick and you can reach into the paint job. The designs look as if they are hovering over the base color.
I know a lot of professional painters. I count myself as one. I have painted box art and add copy bodies for Trinity, Losi, Sportwerks, and HPI. I have two best paint/concourse trophies from the Worlds, one off road, one on road. I've been doing this since the late 90's and have painted well over 1000 bodies. I have yet to see a body painted with acrylic come close, they always look one dimentional. There are some beautiful colors available in acrylic but they just don't blend and layer as well as the laquers. Some of the laquer colors that I do can use 5-6 different layers of color to come up with the result. Candy colors allow you to come up with colors that just don't exist any other way and often colors that you didn't even plan for that really make things pop.
06-02-2013, 05:26 PM
#37
Not so. Backing Waterbased paints protects them better but a decent whack on it and the water base separates from the lexan because it is not bonded to it. So no matter whta you put over it to protect it, it will never bind with the lexan.
Lacquer based paints however impregnate to the surface of the lexan because the Lacquer melts into it a tad. if you were to spill Lacquer directly onto lexan it will get hazy because it begins to burn into and melt the substrate. When you spray lacquer based paints however the fact that it is being misted on means it's drying as it it being applied and so it evaporates quickly enough that it does not damage the body as it sort of melts into the surface and cures, there by becoming far more durable than water based paints.
This video here clearly shows the affects of lacquer on lexan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-0EVJKFCDg
Lacquer based paints however impregnate to the surface of the lexan because the Lacquer melts into it a tad. if you were to spill Lacquer directly onto lexan it will get hazy because it begins to burn into and melt the substrate. When you spray lacquer based paints however the fact that it is being misted on means it's drying as it it being applied and so it evaporates quickly enough that it does not damage the body as it sort of melts into the surface and cures, there by becoming far more durable than water based paints.
This video here clearly shows the affects of lacquer on lexan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-0EVJKFCDg
I did like pactra for quick or large cover areas, will keep an eye out for any replacements.
06-09-2013, 12:58 PM
#39
Tech Initiate
Dude, there are at least 50 painters that only use waterbase and their stuff holds up fine, I actually have a customer who has me just spray bomb flo orange because the pactra cans would flake on him, which I have seen happen many many times. (really just a flo issue). Yes you CAN scrape off waterbase easier, but if its backed properly, it will out last your body.
I did like pactra for quick or large cover areas, will keep an eye out for any replacements.
I did like pactra for quick or large cover areas, will keep an eye out for any replacements.
06-09-2013, 08:31 PM
#40
Pactra being discontinued is a disappointment to me for sure. I have been trying to replicate Pactra Candy Blue for some time now using Faskolor and now moving on to trying Createx and Auto-Air colors. I also started working with Spaztix recently and have been happy with the results of them. Fortunately I spoke to the owner of my LHS and he told me about pactra going away and mentioned he is working on full stock of Spaztix to replace it....
06-09-2013, 08:32 PM
#41
07-06-2013, 01:29 AM
#42
I'm kind of surprised Testors is still around in any shape. I grew up building models, and there was never a lack of places to buy models or paint etc. But in today's age of instant gratifaction and Xbox babysitting...finding model kits is hard, because kids don't build them, I don't know if its the parents or the Xbox.....but its a shame.
07-30-2013, 04:02 PM
#43
Tech Regular
Does anyone know when this is going to happen? Have they already stopped production?
Looks like Ill be using Spazstix exclusively once all the Pactra is gone/too expensive on eBay.
I've only used Pactra, Spazstix and Tamiya aerosols as I don't have an airbrush set, and Pactra is my go-to paint.
Spazstix, I've only used the surface prep and mirror chrome and both work pretty well. Nice even coverage and no weird blobs or erratic sprays.
Tamiya aerosol... absolute garbage. I used several different cans as recommended by my LHS, and all came out unevenly and with blobs that ruined the look. I could only guess its the propellant or nozzle they use. It also seems to be very runny. I'll never waste my money on that again.
Looks like Ill be using Spazstix exclusively once all the Pactra is gone/too expensive on eBay.
I've only used Pactra, Spazstix and Tamiya aerosols as I don't have an airbrush set, and Pactra is my go-to paint.
Spazstix, I've only used the surface prep and mirror chrome and both work pretty well. Nice even coverage and no weird blobs or erratic sprays.
Tamiya aerosol... absolute garbage. I used several different cans as recommended by my LHS, and all came out unevenly and with blobs that ruined the look. I could only guess its the propellant or nozzle they use. It also seems to be very runny. I'll never waste my money on that again.
08-02-2013, 01:10 PM
#44
Tech Master
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Does anyone know when this is going to happen? Have they already stopped production?
Looks like Ill be using Spazstix exclusively once all the Pactra is gone/too expensive on eBay.
I've only used Pactra, Spazstix and Tamiya aerosols as I don't have an airbrush set, and Pactra is my go-to paint.
Spazstix, I've only used the surface prep and mirror chrome and both work pretty well. Nice even coverage and no weird blobs or erratic sprays.
Tamiya aerosol... absolute garbage. I used several different cans as recommended by my LHS, and all came out unevenly and with blobs that ruined the look. I could only guess its the propellant or nozzle they use. It also seems to be very runny. I'll never waste my money on that again.
Looks like Ill be using Spazstix exclusively once all the Pactra is gone/too expensive on eBay.
I've only used Pactra, Spazstix and Tamiya aerosols as I don't have an airbrush set, and Pactra is my go-to paint.
Spazstix, I've only used the surface prep and mirror chrome and both work pretty well. Nice even coverage and no weird blobs or erratic sprays.
Tamiya aerosol... absolute garbage. I used several different cans as recommended by my LHS, and all came out unevenly and with blobs that ruined the look. I could only guess its the propellant or nozzle they use. It also seems to be very runny. I'll never waste my money on that again.
08-02-2013, 11:22 PM
#45
Tech Regular
I am not a pro painter by any means, but I have been painting rc bodies since I was a kid and have turned out some nice pieces with rattle cans. That said, I was very angry when I saw this thread and learned of Pactra's demise - I have been using Pactra paint for years. Tonight I started working on my B4.2 body and used Tamiya paint. This is the third body I have used Tamiya paint on in the last year or so. I have to say I am very pleased with the results. Some have complained about the thinner consistency of Tamiya paint but I actually like it. Lately most of my Pactra cans have been plagued with splatters and ultra-thick paint that's hard to control. I feel like I have more control with the Tamiya paint, and I haven't had any flaking problems either - which is something else I had trouble with in regard to new Pactra products. I am still sad to see Pactra go, but I don't think I will have any trouble switching over to Tamiya - I have been happy with the results so far.