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Old 12-28-2005, 12:56 PM   #1
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Hi

I am just starting out with 1/8th and want to know what engines guys use. I am wondering why there is so much price difference between the OS and the JP (3 times!!)

Is it really worth it?

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Old 12-28-2005, 01:06 PM   #2
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kinda like ford and ferrari.....
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:28 PM   #3
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If you're really starting on the 1/8, what you really dont need is the ultimate slingshot ready for destruct your car at the concrete wall of the backstraight.

Hence, my best bet goes for a Novarrosi RX221 or similar. RX321PS and others may give you excessive speed that you really don't need (for now....). For the price of a JP, you may get a pair of 221's and have one for practice and other for race (keep the practice as backup of the race).

I have some old but really pretty and quick RX21-R1's (Planning to get a 321 for my MRX-3).
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:01 PM   #4
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i run the 321p and Max21 MF abc, the only difference is the Max MF will give more punch in the bottomm, the 321p is more smooth in the powerband and i found the top end of both are pretty the same. I think a 321p with a better pipe will be more than enough, the cluth set up is also very important.
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Old 12-29-2005, 09:10 PM   #5
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I run the OS VZR and find it to be extremly reliable and fast. For club-level racing it has plenty of power. You can find them on ebay for $250, and rebuild parts (piston/sleeve) can be purchased from Tower Hobbies for a little over $100. If you are just getting started, you won't need more power.

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Old 12-31-2005, 07:46 AM   #6
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What pipe should I run with the 35PLUS21? and what pipe for the OS?

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If you are trying to keep costs reasonable, you can use pipes made by RD Logics or Skyline as they are less than $60 for the one-piece style. One of the magazines had a pipe comparison a month or two ago, and if you can find it.... you will see all the pipes offer comparable performance.

You will find the pipe can get dented racing with others and realize the cost to replace is high regardless of your choice. I have used the Skyline, RD Logics, RB Concept & Novarossi one piece systems. All the pipes work well, so its up you and how much $$$ you want to spend.
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I am just starting out with 1/8th and want to know what engines guys use. I am wondering why there is so much price difference between the OS and the JP (3 times!!)

Is it really worth it?

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What pipe should I run with the 35PLUS21? and what pipe for the OS?

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35PLUS21...??????

Didn't you listen to this hint?
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If you're really starting on the 1/8, what you really dont need is the ultimate slingshot ready for destruct your car at the concrete wall of the backstraight.
So, go for the OS.......
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Choose between Novarossi 21Plus 3-C and 35Plus21.
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:28 AM   #10
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Choose between Novarossi 21Plus 3-C and 35Plus21.
Don't, to expensive and to powerfull if you are a beginner....
For the money for those 2 engine you can buy 5 Mega engines.......

Also with a engine with that amount of power you will never learn to drive really fast.

I would go for a 5 ports engine.......
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Choose between Novarossi 21Plus 3-C and 35Plus21.
No way for a newbie... too much powerful too much expensive, too much (insert whatever). I still insist on a RX221 or a RX332 as more suited for a newbie (a properly tuned 332 could be quite as fast as other more expensive engines). Not counting that for the price of a 35 Plus 21, you can get almost two RX332 engines.
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No way for a newbie... too much powerful too much expensive, too much (insert whatever). I still insist on a RX221 or a RX332 as more suited for a newbie (a properly tuned 332 could be quite as fast as other more expensive engines). Not counting that for the price of a 35 Plus 21, you can get almost two RX332 engines.
To much power yes but expensive? How mush is the RX332?
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To much power yes but expensive? How mush is the RX332?
450Eur vs. 660Eur the 221 (who was my first choice, look on my previous posts) goes for 320Eur (check on the-border.com for prices).

With a pair of 221's you can stirr up yourself, drive lots of hours, get accustomed to the reactions of the car, put yourself into problems if you're newbie.

I insist, giving the advice for a total newbie into 1/8 scale to bolt a 332, a 35 Plus 21, JP's or somewhat modified is a total nonsense, he needs a less powerful engine, less critical, less expensive to run, then, time after he may get the opportunity of bolting one of those highly modified engines into their car.
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450Eur vs. 660Eur the 221 (who was my first choice, look on my previous posts) goes for 320Eur (check on the-border.com for prices).

With a pair of 221's you can stirr up yourself, drive lots of hours, get accustomed to the reactions of the car, put yourself into problems if you're newbie.

I insist, giving the advice for a total newbie into 1/8 scale to bolt a 332, a 35 Plus 21, JP's or somewhat modified is a total nonsense, he needs a less powerful engine, less critical, less expensive to run, then, time after he may get the opportunity of bolting one of those highly modified engines into their car.
If you wait by the time he need powerful engine. He need to sell his old engine very cheap and then buy expensive engine so at the end he spend more money.
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If you wait by the time he need powerful engine. He need to sell his old engine very cheap and then buy expensive engine so at the end he spend more money.
By the time he needs a more powerfull engine, his old engine is worn out, so no need to sell it then anymore...
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