The Car that TQ'd in 1/10 was powered by a Virtus.12 and lead the race until it stripped a spur gear. Also you have three engines to choose from with the Novas. Mito, Virtus & Ison. I'm sure they may be something that should suit you. I'd say go with what you feel is best for you.

It's about winning the race, TQ doesn't mean anything on Sunday. The Picco gets better mileage, when 2 motors are about the same power wise the mileage makes the difference.

To some who are able to win races.... To others it is more like to drive races with less costs so they need an engine with a good price, good performance, reliabillity and important: a long lifespan.

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Very good point Roelof.

This to me puts the Novarossi's out of the game for most people. The Picco's are great value for money and I think a better engine back to back. Nothing wrong with the Novarossi's especially when modified by Murnan Modified engines but you need that modifications to make the nova as powerful and consistent as the Picco EMX-WC engines out of the box.

I've run both back to back and those are my honest findings and opinion based on facts.

Novarossi has proven to have a good lifespan on the P/S/R set which is not always the case with Picco and LM. OK, Novarossi does not have the best bearings but the cheaper models do use normal bearings you can find at Boca and TKO. (the expensive engines do use an expensive special made bearing)

I am assuming this comment is only for 200mm?

I think you are crazy. I believe you have an issue with Novarossi. My tuned engines from Novarossi are always fast and on par with all the other engines out there.

That's a little unfair. I've been racing nitro for over 20 years both 1/10 and 1/8 on road at both national and international level. I pay for my kit and I have used just about all manufacturers over the years.

I was competely novarossi for a very long time until the virtus. I have noticed a general decline in the engines consistency and power while prices increased. I've tried red dot, factory tuned, murnan modified (which were the best) and just found that nowadays the Novarossi's have ZERO performance or longevity over the competition. Particularly since mario rossi left NR.

I supported novarossi right up to the 1/10 worlds in Thailand last November. I have 3 virtus and 2 keep ons in my box. There was absolutely no factory support provided at all. Noone representing Novarossi factory from a tech support point of view. Picco however sent Edo over and he was fantastic. He gave me one of the EMX-WC engines and believe me if was like night and day. Plus his support was fantastic. All from an engine half the price of a novarossi and more powerful out of the box. The Novarossi's NEED modifying (you said your 'tuned' engines!) to be quick the Picco's come out of the box quick.

Sorry if the facts I've discovered through my own testing and thousands of dollars investment doesn't meet with your approval and it certainly didn't warrent being called crazy and having an axe to grind which I don't!!

From my observation, my virtus (no factory tuned, just regular virtus, no murnan modified either) was clearly slower than the newest picco like nitrodude said during Airtronics race, not sure on out- of- corner but on straightaway. I know it was not my tuning. Had quite a hard time catching up people w/ Picco this time. And big boys vouch for the new Picco. So I will try one. One on the way now Costwise, not sure how long P/S combo would last compared with Nova so I can't say. But if the initial cost is that much less for Picco, I would say it would be more economical since I wouldn't keep the same motor for years, even if it lasts, so I can stay competitive. DOn't have that many years of experience but I'll find out soon I might end up selling all my Ison/virtus/Top nova lines. Who knows?

The Picco spares are about 60% of the Novarossi equivalent price. The keep on has more top end than a virtus. The virtus more bottom end than a keep on. In my opinion the 2 engines (keep on and virtus) suit different tracks depending on the layout and when I was running novarossi I had both in my box for that very reason. Not sure how the mito compares - probably similar to virtus.

I promise you won't be sorry with the Picco. Out of the box performance surpasses the Novarossi's (of course murnan modified aside! As the murnans are incredible regardless of the Base engine Picco, Novarossi, os, RB - the man is a genius!).

You are only refering to the engine but all your arguements can probably narrowed down by choosing the right exhaust, manifold, gearing and gearbox shift moment to optimise the performance.
With the N21-5T stock class I have seen many differences in the configuration of the motor. Fanally on the track with the right gearing and exhaust they were all running the same.

Where were all the Picco's at the recent a Worlds in Thailand? Top 30 overall results were dominated by Nova based engines followed strongly by OS's.

Unfair to compare a full factory modified Picco up against a box stock Nova.....Max Power TQ'd, Orcan won it, are we classing these as tuned Nova's

Everybody on this thread is going back and forth on the best motor out there! Just run what you want to run and that's all it is to it. Some like picco's and some like novarossi. What it all boils down to is personal preference. I've seen picco's go fast and I've seen nova's go fast! Right now the picco .21 is the World Champion and the nova based .12 is the World Champion. In the end the whole combo car and motor is what it all about! What works for some might not work for others! But when you look at it. Who has the most championships?????

Where were they? It finished in 2nd place in the final...