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compaq888 09-09-2004 01:21 AM


Originally posted by RC Dumb
what the difference bettween 410 and 430 series?
410 is non turbo but with a slightly modified crank. 430 is turbo but a stock crank. non turbo runs cooler.

Ah10 09-09-2004 11:11 AM


Originally posted by compaq888
non turbo runs cooler.
:confused: :confused: :confused: How is that possible?

Scott Fisher 09-09-2004 12:01 PM

The crankshaft and the case is different on the x12 versus the v12. The V12 uses larger bearings to support the larger crank. Because the bearings are larger they had to make the holes in the case larger. Not only that, but the V12 case is supposed to have some fins on it to make it stiffer. I have both engines, but haven't actually put them side by side.

compaq888 09-09-2004 02:01 PM


Originally posted by Ah10
:confused: :confused: :confused: How is that possible?
that is what I have been told by lots of people. I'm not going to argue with you about engines because i know you know your stuff.

afm 09-09-2004 03:13 PM


Originally posted by RC Dumb
what the difference bettween 410 and 430 series?
We are talking about V12 engines 410 and 430, because there was a 410 and 430 on the old X12 series.
So in the new V12 series the difference is that 410 is Std head (for normal plugs) and a crank without turbo scoop. The 430 has a turbo head (for turbo plugs) and a crank with turbo scoop. Other than that, the rest is exactly the same...crank timing, sleeve porting and timing, etc. etc.
The difference between old X12 series and new V12 series is that the old series had the 11mm crank and no milling of the base of boost port on the crankcase. The new series has 11.5mm crank and milling on the base of boost port of crankcase, and new series gets different crank bearings, front is smaller in external dia. and rear is bigger in internal dia. so crankcase is different size too.

AFM

eddiethefish 09-09-2004 03:16 PM

seems like they're mixed up here, according to afm.


Originally posted by compaq888
410 is non turbo but with a slightly modified crank. 430 is turbo but a stock crank. non turbo runs cooler.

AMGRacer 09-09-2004 03:32 PM


Originally posted by compaq888
non turbo runs cooler.
That is not true.

Ah10 09-09-2004 03:47 PM


Originally posted by eddiethefish
I run RB Rody X12 5-Port and still slower than compaqboy's on the straight. My gearing is right, but just not any faster...

come to think of it, 5 supposed to be faster than 3 on the straight, but it isn't!:cry:


How hot were you running and what kind of plug and what gearing?? and tire side? (front to back) are you running overdrive and such?

eddiethefish 09-09-2004 04:54 PM

I was trying to run only on the 1st gear as he does, but failed. All the cars passed me. I was just wondering why my engine is not that powerful as his. :(


Originally posted by Ah10
How hot were you running and what kind of plug and what gearing?? and tire side? (front to back) are you running overdrive and such?

RC Dumb 09-09-2004 05:10 PM

thanks, afm.


Originally posted by afm
We are talking about V12 engines 410 and 430, because there was a 410 and 430 on the old X12 series.
So in the new V12 series the difference is that 410 is Std head (for normal plugs) and a crank without turbo scoop. The 430 has a turbo head (for turbo plugs) and a crank with turbo scoop. Other than that, the rest is exactly the same...crank timing, sleeve porting and timing, etc. etc.
The difference between old X12 series and new V12 series is that the old series had the 11mm crank and no milling of the base of boost port on the crankcase. The new series has 11.5mm crank and milling on the base of boost port of crankcase, and new series gets different crank bearings, front is smaller in external dia. and rear is bigger in internal dia. so crankcase is different size too.

AFM


mckrooz 09-09-2004 05:58 PM


Originally posted by eddiethefish
I was trying to run only on the 1st gear as he does, but failed. All the cars passed me. I was just wondering why my engine is not that powerful as his. :(
:lol: I smell sarcasm.

compaq888 09-09-2004 07:37 PM


Originally posted by eddiethefish
I was trying to run only on the 1st gear as he does, but failed. All the cars passed me. I was just wondering why my engine is not that powerful as his. :(
:lol: I smell jealousy.

raceblast 09-09-2004 07:57 PM

x12 340
 
Does anyone have any info on the RB x12 Rody 1700-000340?

compaq888 09-09-2004 08:42 PM

Re: x12 340
 

Originally posted by raceblast
Does anyone have any info on the RB x12 Rody 1700-000340?
www.rbproducts.com

go to that website.

raceblast 09-09-2004 09:03 PM

I cannot find info on RB 340 at the RB web site! Just wondering if anyone knows this engine?


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