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Roelof 07-04-2010 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by PMSorber (Post 7626426)
Yes! Just had a look at teh EC 2010, nobody with discs, Dax or what ever....

DAX I can imagine because not a lot of people are modifying cars than only other brand parts. But have you seen all 80 clutches what kind of springs they are using and even if there are no discs how sure are you of the used springs and all other parts if they are to get for the normal drivers?

PMSorber 07-04-2010 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Team Kamikaze (Post 7626438)
:nod: Straight to the point :sneaky: How is it going Pieter?

Hey Sam! I can better ask you this question, I think.... everything well? Recovery going OK?

sheeley 07-04-2010 03:17 PM

Roelof I think its a beautiful thing how you share your hobby on rctech. I have learned from you and many other people on here.

PMSorber 07-05-2010 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by sheeley (Post 7627538)
Roelof I think its a beautiful thing how you share your hobby on rctech. I have learned from you and many other people on here.

Hey I do not state that Roelof should not share his initiatives, his work is good and sometimes it helps others. Roelof is al least somebody who thinks creative.

But... we live in a democratic world where everybody can give his opinion, good or bad.

stefan 07-05-2010 05:33 AM

The belleville setup definately works and it gives you the most consitant clutch I have seen so far.
I think you would be amazed how many top guys are using these.

They just can't tell, since they are supposed to run "stock" cars.:nod:

The greatest thing about this is, that noone is forcing nobody to use it;)

Roelof 07-05-2010 07:15 AM

Thanx, but this is not innovative but just something I have seen and wanted to try.

Maybe we will test it on the track next weekend. Just the feeling of it was very good with the 0.5mm discs but I have also 0.7mm which has twice the strenth and 0.8mm which has 3 times the strenth of the 0.5mm. They had only the plain steel discs which hold their specs up to 80 degrees celcius so I was told.

I think with the 0.5mm discs 10 pieces are enough to give enough room for the tension nut. The thicker discs will be milled to the right size to give it a try so we know what to use.

All about these springs can be found in here:
http://www.schnorr.com/docs/Handbook.pdf
Interesting is how you can change the character of the spring, with 10 discs you can try several things to get the best out of it

My sponsor was also amazed and when we have tested all sizes I think he will order several hundreds and put them on a bar to machine them to the right size.

J.Gonzalez 07-08-2010 04:21 AM

Seem that shepherd spring it a popular choice overseas?

Does anyone have part number as two spring are listed? One for vcc clutch and second xhard for v10.

Thanks

Jamie

walo 07-08-2010 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by senna555 (Post 7643060)
Seem that shepherd spring it a popular choice overseas?

Does anyone have part number as two spring are listed? One for vcc clutch and second xhard for v10.

Thanks

Jamie

The secret is out so I'll come clean :lol:. The Shephard spring is the hardest and longest spring out there, and it's the cheapest. P.m me and I'll get you the part number. Don't be a stranger at the next race, stop by and get your interview :nod:. Oh, I should have one new left over in my parts bag. Do you know where I can get a conrod for a Ninja MR on road 21?

J.Gonzalez 07-08-2010 07:47 AM

Thanks Walo.

Rod going to be tough..best luck is ebay or hong kong like rc mushroom.

No interviews for me...I am famous/infamous enough already :lol:. j/k.

Jamie

Roelof 07-08-2010 08:11 AM

Drifting off.....

I have read somewhere in the offroad part on this forum that the Technopower rod is the same.....

Ontopic: I believe the partnumber was already given bij Sorber on page 2 of this topic.

wingracer 10-10-2010 07:24 PM

Any new developments?

Roelof 10-11-2010 09:46 AM

Not yet, I have to make some time to get the springs from another material.

It seems the 5mm springs do fine, 10 pieces do fill up the space and almost no pre-tension is needed but the cheap springs I have now are to much temperature sensitive, I was told they loose power already at 80 degees celcius. The other material should withstand up to 200 degrees celcius and do cost about 40 cent a spring instead of 8 cent but then again you will come up to 4 euro a full spring.

With the 5mm springs there is an high rpm clutch engage possible with less slip, I have tryed the 7mm but I think it was to much. I also have the information about the kit sold by the german shop and must figure it out if that works better or the same, all I can say they are using a combination of several springs to a more progressive setting.

For us the winter season has started so there is some time although in my function within the Dutch NOMAC it is the time to list all new proposals and organise meetings working to the new season ;(

Roelof 05-04-2011 09:48 AM

Beside that German shop mentioned in this topic there is a new brand:

http://www.redrc.net/2011/05/pirani-...clutch-spring/

blackyblackman 05-20-2011 10:08 AM

Hi!

Did someone use these shims in a Capricorn LAB-C01 WCE clutch??

If yes, how much shims did i have to use??
10 or 12?
And how much is the pre-load?


Regards,

Michael

TommyBlazin 07-17-2011 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 9061207)
Beside that German shop mentioned in this topic there is a new brand:

http://www.redrc.net/2011/05/pirani-...clutch-spring/

is that piriani spring in the usa anywhere?


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